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Old 05-22-2023, 02:00 PM
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Default Does anyone actually have an XMON working with a Dock and Avid Control?

Hi,

I have spent all of an 8 hour day trying to get an original Digidesign XMON to work with my new S1/Dock setup.

I have purchased a breakout cable that seems to be wired correctly. I have tried 2 different USB interfaces, countless cables, wiped and reinstalled software and no love.

If there is anyone who actually has this setup working please help!
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Old 05-22-2023, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone actually have an XMON working with a Dock and Avid Control?

So does the Xmon software recognize and work with it? The communication goes:
Hardware Xmon <> serial protocol to USB <> Xmon software <> Eucon <> Eucontrol/WSControl

Just trying to figure out where you have a break in the communication.
I had an Xmon working with an S6 for quite a while (which is the same up to the Eucontrol vs WSControl above.)
But one thing I remember is that Avid were really insistent on replacing our Xmon (which was originally a Digidesign branded one that was part of our Icon setup) and it was swapped to an Avid branded one with the S6. Never got a solid answer whether that was actually required (or everyone just wanted to update everything as a package.)
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Old 05-22-2023, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone actually have an XMON working with a Dock and Avid Control?

Hi and thanks for offering your help!

Before I started down this road I was assured by senior Avid people that this combination would work with the proper breakout cable.

I purchased a DB 15 to midi break out cable on eBay. I double checked the wiring with a wiring diagram that I got and wiring is correct.

My blue Digidesign XMON was working perfectly with my D-Command on Sunday.

My Dock/Control app sees and communicates with the XMON app.

The XMON app acknowledges the MIDI interface.

So the problem is somewhere between the midi interface and the XMON.

I have tried two different midi interfaces so it's unlikely that the interface is the issue.
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Old 05-22-2023, 06:40 PM
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any chance you have messages blocked/filtered in Audio MIDI Setup? We used a MIO midi device for this when we had it running.

(I'm speaking in past tense because after a year we switched that room to MTRX/DADman so I'm doing this from memory)
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Does anyone actually have an XMON working with a Dock and Avid Control?

First thing is to check the cables:

Interface MIDI Out -> XMON MIDI In
and
Interface MIDI In -> XMon MIDI Out.

And it sounds like you've right-clicked on the Xmon icon and selected the correct device & port?

Have you removed that MIDI Interface from Pro Tools' "MIDI Input Devices"?
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Old 05-23-2023, 03:12 AM
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any chance you have messages blocked/filtered in Audio MIDI Setup? We used a MIO midi device for this when we had it running.
I will check!
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Old 05-23-2023, 03:16 AM
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First thing is to check the cables:

Interface MIDI Out -> XMON MIDI In
and
Interface MIDI In -> XMon MIDI Out.

And it sounds like you've right-clicked on the Xmon icon and selected the correct device & port?

Have you removed that MIDI Interface from Pro Tools' "MIDI Input Devices"?
I do believe that I have the MIDI cables correctly connected.

I have the proper device and port selected. The XMON app sees the interface and if I move a fader on the XMON app I see MIDI data indicated on the MIDI interface.

Pro Tools isn't even open when I'm testing this but I can check to see if the MIDI interface is still "removed"
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Not sure if you can see your Xmon from mix position but if so does the MIDI activity light show anything?

Is this a custom built cable you bought? Nevermind you say you tested the pins...
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Old 05-23-2023, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: Does anyone actually have an XMON working with a Dock and Avid Control?

You probably already have this but in case. http://akmedia.digidesign.com/suppor...uide_83535.pdf Pin out is in there. FYI we sold over 1000 XMON EUCON kits so we know it works
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any chance you have messages blocked/filtered in Audio MIDI Setup? We used a MIO midi device for this when we had it running.
Is Mio a brand?
like this?
https://www.iconnectivity.com/products/midi/mio
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