44.1 vs 96Hz Sessions

[adam79]

My PT interface is a UA Apollo DUO, which forces me to run all my sessions at 44.1 Hz; you need atleast at QUAD for it's processor to handle multiple plugs running at 96 Hz. Mostly all the plugin specs, UA or not, list the frequency at 96 Hz. Does this mean that they want to run at 96 for optimal performance? If yes, what am I losing out on by running my sessions, and hence the plugs, at 44.1? Thanks.

[Stephen Bond]

Well they want you to buy some more DSP for sure

I'd stick at 44.1 or 48 unless you have money to burn? Sure, higher rates are nice but until higher sample rates exist at the consumer level running them on the multitrack is a cumbersome and expensive luxury IMHO.

Stephen

[Drew Mazurek]

Make records at 44.1 that compete with the best ever done, then revisit the topic.

[TOM@METRO]

The upside vs downside of running higher sample rates has been long debated and opinions still vary. That said, the vast majority of my clients ask for 44.1/48Hz for their sessions.

[albee1952]

I am at 48K for 99% of my work. I am more puzzled by this
"My PT interface is a UA Apollo DUO, which forces me to run all my sessions at 44.1 Hz;"
Shooting from the hip as you give zero info on your setup, but I'm guessing you run Windows and you have the Apollo set as the default playback device under Windows>Sound Properties? That would lock the sample rate and cause what you describe. Set Windows to use the computer's on-board audio to free up Apollo(and be aware that buffer settings and maybe sample rate need to be set in the UA software).

[adam79]

Originally Posted by albee1952

I am at 48K for 99% of my work. I am more puzzled by this
"My PT interface is a UA Apollo DUO, which forces me to run all my sessions at 44.1 Hz;"
Shooting from the hip as you give zero info on your setup, but I'm guessing you run Windows and you have the Apollo set as the default playback device under Windows>Sound Properties? That would lock the sample rate and cause what you describe. Set Windows to use the computer's on-board audio to free up Apollo(and be aware that buffer settings and maybe sample rate need to be set in the UA software).

I'm on a Mac. The Apollo has a built in DSP processor that it uses for the UA plugs. The DUO has the least processing power, followed by the QUAD and OCTO, which have 2 and 4 times the power, respectively, of the DUO. As the sample rate increases so does the DSP needed; my DUO maxes out pretty quickly at 96k.

What advantages do you get from running your sessions at 48k?

[shea]

Originally Posted by albee1952

I am at 48K for 99% of my work. I am more puzzled by this
"My PT interface is a UA Apollo DUO, which forces me to run all my sessions at 44.1 Hz;"
Shooting from the hip as you give zero info on your setup, but I'm guessing you run Windows and you have the Apollo set as the default playback device under Windows>Sound Properties? That would lock the sample rate and cause what you describe. Set Windows to use the computer's on-board audio to free up Apollo(and be aware that buffer settings and maybe sample rate need to be set in the UA software).

Hi albee
I'm not able to post a new post on the duc I was wondering if anybody know how to swap out a snare in classic kit in structure
Shea

[Stephen Bond]

Originally Posted by adam79

I'm on a Mac. The Apollo has a built in DSP processor that it uses for the UA plugs. The DUO has the least processing power, followed by the QUAD and OCTO, which have 2 and 4 times the power, respectively, of the DUO. As the sample rate increases so does the DSP needed; my DUO maxes out pretty quickly at 96k.

What advantages do you get from running your sessions at 48k?

https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/art...Instance-Chart

"Notes

All measurements are taken at a sample rate of 44.1 kHz. Some UAD plug-ins use more DSP at higher sample rates."

Stephen

[Bob Olhsson]

My experience has been that 48k has always been well worth the effort and I've been doing recordings from microphones at 96k for a decade after running tests comparing the final 44.1x16 results comparing 48 with 96. Theoretically you can get as good results working at 44.1 however it requires a lot of extra computational overhead and latency to maintain quality.

The 44.1 sample rate was a consumer release format dictated by early video tape based digital editing. The professional production rate has always been 48k and a lot of older converters are optimized for use at 48k. Likewise a lot of plug-ins sound better at 48 or 96k.

[albee1952]

Originally Posted by shea

Hi albee
I'm not able to post a new post on the duc I was wondering if anybody know how to swap out a snare in classic kit in structure
Shea

Sorry, but I have no experience with Structure(I use Slate Trigger for drum replacement). I suggest going to youtube and searching for some tutorials on using Structure. It might be as simple as dragging a sample onto the plugin