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Old 04-16-2022, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: Big Sur Update - Graphics lag and can't reorder tracks

Hey. I would also like to put in for a fix for this. It’s driving me nuts but I’m glad to see it’s not just me. Is anyone speaking directly with avid on this?
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Old 04-28-2022, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: Big Sur Update - Graphics lag and can't reorder tracks

I wish I'd seen this thread before updating to Big Sur a couple of weeks ago...

Wondered if anyone had tried 2022.4 to see if there has been any resolution to the issue...?

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Old 05-23-2022, 02:09 PM
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I wish I'd seen this thread before updating to Big Sur a couple of weeks ago...

Wondered if anyone had tried 2022.4 to see if there has been any resolution to the issue...?

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I can confirm graphical glitches and slow UI on 2022.4 and Big Sur 11.6.5. I had done a fresh install of everything. I recently updated to Big Sur from High Sierra with PT 2021.3.1 and I am regretting it!

Even though its not technically qualified with Big Sur 11.6.5, I installed trusty old 2021.3.1 and ALL the glitches and UI slowness were gone. The only problem is the HD driver from the 2021.3.1 installer does not seem to work on 11.6.5. Perhaps I could install a later version HD driver and stick with 2021.3.1.

After I confirmed 2021.3.1 fixed all the lag and glitches, I went from version to version starting with 2021.6, then 2021.7, 2021.10, 2021.12, and finally 2022.4. Can also confirm all of these are 100% Big Sur glitches because my laptop with PT 2022.4 and Catalina 10.15.7 runs great, no UI glitches or slowness (and its a freaking 2012 MacBook Pro vs my "glitchy" system which is a beefy new MacPro)

Things I notice in ALL versions after 2021.3.1:
1.) Adjusting a clip's clip gain using the mouse scroll wheel while holding Ctrl + Shift lags quite a bit.

2.) Resizing a track creates a weird ghosting "bad refresh rate" type graphical glitch on the surrounding tracks.

3.) The playhead is now white in classic UI theme instead of original black color. (not this way on Catalina)

4.) Using Ctrl + Cmd + Left/Right arrow to change a tracks automation view lags a bit in addition to errantly scrolling to whatever track in your session is selected. If you have one track selected way down in your session, but your edit selection is on a couple other tracks that you intend to change the automation view on, it will change the automation view correctly on the edit selection but then scroll down to whatever track was selected. (Does this on both Catalina and Big Sur)

On any version before 2022.4 but after 2021.3.1 the mix window lags very hard when scrolling left and right through your tracks, even when not playing. 2022.4 seems to fix this, or at least made it much better.

Avid obviously does zero basic testing on their new versions before releasing. IMO these problems are very apparent with any basic ProTools use, yet they consider these versions "qualified" for 11.6.5? I don't get it!

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Old 05-23-2022, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Big Sur Update - Graphics lag and can't reorder tracks

I can report that Monterey (12.5 in particular) is snappity fast, GUI-wise. There are still a few plugins and apps that show lag, but they have *always* been slow so I have to assume that the culprits lie in their camps and not Apple's nor Avid's, or with my particular graphics card.
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Old 05-23-2022, 02:41 PM
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I can report that Monterey (12.5 in particular) is snappity fast, GUI-wise. There are still a few plugins and apps that show lag, but they have *always* been slow so I have to assume that the culprits lie in their camps and not Apple's nor Avid's, or with my particular graphics card.
thanks for the info. Looks like I may just upgrade to Monterey. Can you confirm the glitches I had outlined in my previous post are not present on Monterey and 2022.4?
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Old 05-23-2022, 05:44 PM
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I updated to Monterey 12.4 using PT 2022.4 and the graphical glitches and UI lag are still present unfortunately.
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Old 05-23-2022, 07:10 PM
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Monterey improves this for me. But…. It also brings all sorts of new issues. Catalina was great! I’m so afraid of the future iosifying of mac os.
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Old 05-24-2022, 11:25 AM
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It felt like I had just as much UI lag on Monterey as I do on Big Sur. I reverted back to using 2021.3.1 with the 2022.4 HD driver and it seems to work a bit better on Big Sur. Still have some UI lag, like when quickly clicking around and making fades, adjusting clip gains, etc. The graphical glitches seem to be gone though like the track resizing ghosting, playhead being white, and all the other ones that plagued versions after 2021.3.1.

There have been 5 new ProTools versions released since 2021.3.1 and ALL of them have these graphical issue and UI lag. Remind me again what we are paying for with our support plans?
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Old 05-24-2022, 11:43 AM
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It felt like I had just as much UI lag on Monterey as I do on Big Sur. I reverted back to using 2021.3.1 with the 2022.4 HD driver and it seems to work a bit better on Big Sur.
You'd upgraded the OS to Monterey, then downgraded that same computer back to Big Sur?
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Old 05-24-2022, 11:48 AM
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You'd upgraded the OS to Monterey, then downgraded that same computer back to Big Sur?
Nope, clean installs each time. I would just downgrade to Catalina and call it a day but unfortunately no support for AMD 6900 XT GPU. Also no support for my old Nvidia 1080 ti. =(
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