Multi Core or Single Core is better for Pro Tools?

[Rockman413]

Hi there,
Recently I've been thinking to upgrade my studio computers.
In such case, for the pro tools HD machine, single core power or multi-core
power is more important? For example, I can upgrade to a 7700K Cpu which
has a better single core performance, or I can upgrade to the new Mac Pro
with Xeon Cpu which is better at multi-core performance?

Thank you!

[Rockman413]

Originally Posted by Rockman413

Hi there,
Recently I've been thinking to upgrade my studio computers.
In such case, for the pro tools HD machine, single core power or multi-core
power is more important? For example, I can upgrade to a 7700K Cpu which
has a better single core performance, or I can upgrade to the new Mac Pro
with Xeon Cpu which is better at multi-core performance?

Thank you!

So with the price drop (no upgarde) I'm deciding if I should buy the trash can. I'm a traveler so I consider only laptop PC and trashcan, desktop PC or Mac tower is too big for me to travel with.
I'm a heavily CPU user for Pro Tools HD hosting VE Pro. the VE Pro support suggests me to ask if single core or multi-core would be the best for PT HD.

I can get a 7700K CPU laptop PC at around $2500 , or a $2999 nMP with E5-1650 v2, the score at PassMark benchmark is very very close.
But isn't the 7700 K the newest while E5-1650 V2 very very old (goes back to 2013???)

Which one is more powerful for heavy CPU usage?

[Southsidemusic]

Well the nMP 6 Core trashcans are extremely capable and we run two of them and 200-250 tracks a session with loads of VI and plugins. Automations on 75% of the tracks and also many heavy plugins.

Never had sny issues on those amcs and we also have afew MBP retina 2013/2014 which has i7 16GB ram and 512GB flash and we use that internal drive for everything when out of the studio in hotels etc and works flawless.

I would never invest in a Win Laptop as there are too many issues so a Macbook Pro i7 or nMP would be our recommendation, all this IMHO of course.

You can't just say a 2013 CPU is very very old as it is what it does inside the unit that counts, not when it was made. We have a Mac Pro Silver tower with a 5.1 Processor which is older and it smashes newer machines with eaze.

[Bob Olhsson]

The key to this is often a hidden spec. This is the number of floating point calculations per second. Newer CPUs are significantly faster in this respect so a new dual core could outperform an older 6 core having the same overall speed spec.

[guitardom]

A 7700k will be as fast and probably a bit more powerful than a 2013 MP. The MP is multiple generations behind now and even a modern 6 core is as powerful as the highest end MP 12 core.

You are dealing with a lot more than single or multicore performance. The 7700k is multicore as well, 4 cores. But those 4 cores are clocked VERY fast. That coupled with the Intel generational improvements such as DDR4 ram, through put (clock speed), and pure power, they are quite impressive. as comparison, the MP Xeons are 4th generation intel, 7700k is 7th generation.

[guitardom]

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

The key to this is often a hidden spec. This is the number of floating point calculations per second. Newer CPUs are significantly faster in this respect so a new dual core could outperform an older 6 core having the same overall speed spec.

Think you meant quad core, not dual core

[Bob Olhsson]

No, I actually meant dual core. Intel has multiplied float speed a number of times. My cynical theory of why they bury that spec is that they don't want to completely kill off sales of their previous models while they still have some in stock.

[Southsidemusic]

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

No, I actually meant dual core. Intel has multiplied float speed a number of times. My cynical theory of why they bury that spec is that they don't want to completely kill off sales of their previous models while they still have some in stock.

Impossible in the real working world. Not just figures and guestimates on paper.

[Rockman413]

Ok I'm now even more confused...

So my choice is to upgrade to a Audio PC Laptop with 7700 K , or a 6 or 8 Core Trashcan.

I'm seeing replies some saying 7700K is better , and some saying Trashcan with Xeon CPU is better.

Which one is better for my need? My need is running Pro Tools HD and host VE pro (not VI) in Pro Tools HD and get audios from slave computers via Ethernet Cables

[Rockman413]

What got me confused is E5 1650 V2 is very very old (2013, 4th gen CPU) while 7700K is the newest 7th i7, BUT:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

the benchmarks showing the E5 1650 V2 is even slightly more powerful. Wouldn't the 7th gen 7700k CPU is much newer than the 4th gen cpu? I didn't get it

Thank you