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Old 08-12-2001, 09:58 AM
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Default The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

I highly welcomed "the low latency monitoring" in PTLE 5.01. I don't know how 5.1.1 is, but in 5.01....:
I mean, I know that when I have low latency monitoring available, I am not able to bounce the aux (plug-ins) signal(s), but I would like to have some kind of warning!!! Maybe even a sounding one!
I have been bouncing short loops and heard everything perfectly during the bounce, but 2 hours alter, I understood I just heard an .....illusion...:
The bounce files was just a big ....silence!
My mistake, OK....but wouldn't be possible to get some "help" from the PTLE
program???? Please...???
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Old 08-12-2001, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

Yeah, I also made that discovery the first time. I can't imagine it's too difficult to program a few lines of code to issue a pop-up warning message about turning off "low latency" when doing a BTD.

It's not a bug, but a sorely needed feature.

My solution is just not to use the low latency mode (I monitor externally).
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Old 08-12-2001, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

1. It's mentioned in the maual.
2. Can't you use low latency for recording and then switch to non-low latency( and even higher buffer settings) for Mixing/BTD?

seems like just a few steps, for alot of power in each case...
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Old 08-12-2001, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It's not a bug, but a sorely needed feature.
Yes in did!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>2. Can't you use low latency for recording and then switch to non-low latency( and even higher buffer settings) for Mixing/BTD?
I know, and I usually do, but sometimes it's possible to just forget....
....than it will be nice with a "pop-up warning" !
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Old 08-12-2001, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

someone give me a little more education on this subject.
i have a track now that i'm using "low latency mon." on.
i know of latency but not about it.
i should not use "low latency" and do what instead?
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Old 08-13-2001, 06:04 AM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

This is all covered in the manual. Anyway, Low latency monitoring is only used during recording, and then only on the digi001 inputs 1-2. Conversly you can just bump your buffer under hardware setup to 128 samples and then any input will have low latency.
The trick is to remember to go back and beef up te buffer to 1024 again for mixing etc.
Then go into your tracks and slice off the first 128 samples to time align them and make up for the hardware latency.If you dont do that then your next track referenced to the last wil be 256 samples off the 1st and so on. Otherwise, I don't use low latency monitoring at all, due to the front inputs being too variable in gain for my tastes, and the hardware buffer setting accomplishung the same thing on any input.
BTW, you dont have to have low latency checked marked all the time, once the track is recorded it has no further affect.
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Old 08-13-2001, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

OK, here is the story:
I recorded an Oasys drum loop in the PTLE sequencer. I auditioned the Oasys sound(s) via an Aux. channel in PTLE. I wonted to be able to play on my keyboard without latency, so I used "Low latency monitoring".
I tried different Oasys effects on the loop, and I just wonted to bounce the results. In the process, I forgot about the "Low latency monitoring", which was still "On". As I said before : my mistake!!!!
....but as Iwilliam said :

"I can't imagine it's too difficult to program a few lines of code to issue a pop-up warning message about turning off "low latency" when doing a BTD".

It is anyhow quite confusing to be able to here a perfect BDT while we're getting nothing on the bounced file....don't you think?
Actually, this is what this topic is all about.
Digi???
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Old 08-13-2001, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

thanks karma

i still have not printed my pdf's yet.
it's just so hard not to tinker with all
my new stuff. thanks for the time. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-13-2001, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

don bother to print the manual you can search by keywords right in acrobat reader.

Try a search for "latency" same info will likely come up.
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Old 08-13-2001, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: The "dark side" of Low latency monitor

Karma, I'm not convinced you have your facts straight...You said the "Low Latency mode only affects inputs 1 & 2 on the Digi001". Are you sure about this? I don't use these inputs and I seem to hear to difference between the Low latency mode and when it is off.

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