Pro Tools Public Beta: December 2022

[off the wall]

Originally Posted by pm mastering studio

I am a bit disappointed the ICON Control surfaces wont be able to connect to an silicon-Native version of ProTools Ultimate. Not sure when AVID will completely change to Native (and ditch Mac-Intel completely) but one can only assume this is a logical way they will go for future development (pretty sure they will not continue to develop 3 different OS's (Win- MACOS and Silicon Mac))

This means I have to invest heavily into a new console if I want to change my MacPro into a new M(x)-silicon enabled MAC computer ! I'm sorry but don't have that 60K investment lay-ing around these days to make a switch to S4 or even S6 :-(

What makes it even worse is that WINDOWS computers will still be able to use the Control surface (until AVID breaks that connection offcourse) and recieve updates.

Do I have to switch to Windows again ? MAC has brought me so much joy ;-)

Although I understand the switch to Silicon Native. AVID will lose a big part of there clients who still use a Command/ICON control surface.

I do urge AVID to consider updating there strategy and transfer the Command/icon interface into the new Native system.

PLEASE - PLEASE - PLEASE

I have the same concern with my C|24. I hoping Neyrinck might be the answer when that time comes.

[Ben Jenssen]

I'm not installing this. Yet.
My current setup is 100% solid for what I need.
The single one thing I could be curious about is the added performance w/native, but even that I expect not to be very significant.

Couple of things I wonder about:

1. How are you approaching this?
Are you installing right on top of your current version, doing the rename old version trick to keep both, or installing on a separate system?

2. About co-existing versions of PT. How are prefs and other files handled? Seamlessly, or what? What about PT rosetta vs native, settings and 'background' files are shared or what?
I guess Pete Gates, maker of PT Prefs 2 app, will be looking into this soon enough.

[johnsimmons]

Originally Posted by Raphaeld

I'm only using VintageVerb 2.2.8.

When I go into Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Avid/Audio/Plug-Ins/ValhallaVintageVerb.aaxplugin the version number is 2.2.8 which is Apple Silicon compatible. I think there's a bug in this beta.

sorry I missed this as running a blank test session, vintage verb is the only one that doesn't appear (does not even appear on plug list) , will mail them thanks

[off the wall]

Originally Posted by Ben Jenssen

I'm not installing this. Yet.
My current setup is 100% solid for what I need.
The single one thing I could be curious about is the added performance w/native, but even that I expect not to be very significant.

Couple of things I wonder about:

1. How are you approaching this?
Are you installing right on top of your current version, doing the rename old version trick to keep both, or installing on a separate system?

2. About co-existing versions of PT. How are prefs and other files handled? Seamlessly, or what? What about PT rosetta vs native, settings and 'background' files are shared or what?
I guess Pete Gates, maker of PT Prefs 2 app, will be looking into this soon enough.

2022.12 is a Universal Binary. You just toggle the "Run under Rosetta" check in the apps Get Into in the Finder. It is one app.

[Ben Jenssen]

Originally Posted by off the wall

2022.12 is a Universal Binary. You just toggle the "Run under Rosetta" check in the apps Get Into in the Finder. It is one app.

I understand this.
Perhaps read my post again?
Thanks for trying, though.

[Ben Jenssen]

Pro Tools Operating System Compatibility Chart

Well, well, well.
It supports macOS back to Mohave!

[off the wall]

Originally Posted by Ben Jenssen

I understand this.
Perhaps read my post again?
Thanks for trying, though.

Perhaps you were referring to PT 2022.10 and 2022.12 but your initial question inferred you were talking about the native vs. the Intel variants of PT 2022.12.

This in your original post is ambiguous.
"1. How are you approaching this?
Are you installing right on top of your current version, doing the rename old version trick to keep both, or installing on a separate system?"

[M2E]

Originally Posted by Raphaeld

UPDATE
Well, I loaded all the updates that say they're native for Apple Silicon but 2022.12 doesn't believe it. After installing all the updates and restarting PT still doesn't show FabFilter (for example) as an available plug-in.

I've had the same issue. I updated and ran Pro Tools in Native, and most of my plugins in this test setup didn't run on the Native version. Run's fine in Rosseta though.

Marc

[Ben Jenssen]

Originally Posted by off the wall

Perhaps you were referring to PT 2022.10 and 2022.12 but your initial question inferred you were talking about the native vs. the Intel variants of PT 2022.12.

This in your original post is ambiguous.
"1. How are you approaching this?
Are you installing right on top of your current version, doing the rename old version trick to keep both, or installing on a separate system?"

Just forget it. I think most people are aware what a 'universal binary' is. That question was more about the fact that this is a 'public beta'. See the release notes for the list of what is NOT working in 22.12.

[grayter1]

Originally Posted by Ben Jenssen

1. How are you approaching this?
Are you installing right on top of your current version, doing the rename old version trick to keep both, or installing on a separate system?

2. About co-existing versions of PT. How are prefs and other files handled? Seamlessly, or what? What about PT rosetta vs native, settings and 'background' files are shared or what?
I guess Pete Gates, maker of PT Prefs 2 app, will be looking into this soon enough.

I'm doing the renaming thing and running both on the same system, as I've done for almost every update for years.

Not sure how pref's are being handled under the hood, but things seem to be in place for both the native and rosetta versions.

tg