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Old 09-21-2023, 07:46 AM
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Default Re: DAE can't get audio from the drive(s) fast enough

The full disk theory was stated before you mentioned you had 200GB free. That's it, it was just an initial idea.

Most thumb drives are too slow and inconsistent to record to. Avoid that.

The Verbatim SSD should do it. You're starting a brand new session on that drive and recording to it? Or using audio that is still on your internal drive?
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Old 10-06-2023, 05:23 AM
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Still doesn't work. Pro tools and Mac suck.
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Old 10-06-2023, 07:32 AM
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Still doesn't work. Pro tools and Mac suck.
Check this thread......

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=358712

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Old 10-06-2023, 08:30 AM
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First of, you have to understand that you're using a

12 years old computer.

The software has evolved to a point that even your cpu would not cut it if you were to use the latest version of pro tools. At that age, a computer will start to fail.

second it's a 5400 rpm spinning disk... While it might have been okay in the early 2000, it was never the optimum for any audio recording. Couple that with how a spinning disks works and how the information is not being store sequentially (that's not pro tools fault it's how all OS'S works) then there's a lot of searching, reading, that needs to be done on a constant basis, when you add multiple tracks, well all that searching has to be done exponentially.

A 5400 rpm HDD has a maximum theoretical read speed of 75 MBs.
1 minute of 16 bit 44.1 khz mono track is already 5 MBs. Multiply that by all mono track, and then add in the stereo tracks (pianos) at 10 MBs each and multiply that by the length of the song. Even if muted the information is still being gathered from the HDD real time (since pro tools 9 didn't have disk cache at the time), you will see that this tallies up quite fast and your hard drive might just be too slow now (it's pretty old) and on top of that the information as I said is fragmented. When is the last time you defragmented your HDD? This will try to put all the correlative information closer sequentially together which would make it easier for the OS to fetch the information real time.

If you're interested to know the different storage space different format (bit and khz) of audio take here's a list.

– 16 bit / 44.1 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 5 MB (Megabytes)
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 10 MB

– 16-bit / 48 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 5.5 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 11 MB

– 24-bit / 44.1 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 7.5 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 15 MB

– 24-bit / 48 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 8.2 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 16.4 MB

– 16-bit / 88.2 kHz
1 minute of 1 mono track – 10 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 20 MB

– 16-bit / 96 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 11 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 22 MB

– 24-bit / 88.2 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 15 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 30 MB

– 24-bit / 96 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 16.4 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 32.8 MB

– 16-bit / 176.4 kHz
1 minute of 1 mono track – 20 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 40 MB

– 16-bit / 192 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 22 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 44 MB

– 24-bit / 176.4 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 30MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 60 MB

– 24-bit / 192 kHz –
1 minute of 1 mono track – 32.8 MB
1 minute of 1 stereo track – 65.6 MB
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Old 10-06-2023, 09:13 AM
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Still doesn't work. Pro tools and Mac suck.
Then go buy a 10 year old PC and use Cakewalk or just use GarageBand.

You fail to acknowledge any of the info provided to you for help. Refused to go out a buy a proper hard drive or see I fly run any tests on your internal drive (nobody runs sessions off thumb drives), and just come back here to bash Mac and Pro Tools? Nobody needs that.
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Old 10-06-2023, 11:19 AM
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Some things you can try for free.

1 -
Download and follow the instructions for using the free Mac OS X system utility:OnyX
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OnyX is a multifunction utility that you can use to verify the structure of the system files; run miscellaneous maintenance and cleaning tasks; configure parameters in the Finder, Dock, Safari, and some Apple applications; delete caches; remove certain problematic folders and files; rebuild various databases and indexes; and more.

OnyX is a reliable application which provides a clean interface to many tasks that would otherwise require complex commands to be typed using a command-line interface.

IMPORTANT:
There is a specific version of OnyX for each major version of the operating system.
Use the correct version, and don't try to use a version intended for an earlier operating system.
OnyX is free (donation ware), but you should read the instructions and follow them. Don't try to use every function of the utility at once; start with the basics. Others here can probably advise better than I can, as it has been a long time since I may have used it on the Mac OS version you have.

2 - Try making a new GarageBand session with your existing audio files. If you are not able to do that, then create a new session and record some new audio files, adding more tracks one at a time until you do or do not get an error message.
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Old 10-07-2023, 06:41 AM
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What I would do is this.

Go to macsales.com and buy SATA SSD (up to 4TB) with the SSD upgrade kit, and memory upgrade (up to 16GB).

Then take the Mini and stuff to your local Mac shop and pay that shop to install stuff and do 1:1 data clone to your new internal SSD drive, unless you are comfortable to DIY obviously.

This way nothing else changes except the internals.
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Old 10-07-2023, 07:18 AM
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