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Old 12-10-2010, 06:49 AM
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Default Beat detective from midi track - no click- help, please?

I have a midi track with the musician playing a plucked type sound keyboard part in relatively good time, but without a click track. I'd like to use beat detective to create bars and beats and a tempo map --

But I am missing something. Does beat detective not work well on midi? You would think without having to analyze the audio, it would be superior.

My ultimate goal is to import the midi into Finale 2011 -- but I need a better tempo map. Shouldn't beat detective do this for me? I'm obviously not doing something right.

Help please?

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Old 12-10-2010, 07:23 AM
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Make sure BD is set to work with MIDI and click on Bar|Beat marker generation. I always work in region view.
  • Tab to the first note
  • Trim region start to this note
  • Place the region on any bar (lets say bar 10)
  • Start playback from that bar, and count along. I do it in chunks, so I'd probably hit the up arrow right before I've played two full bars.
  • Shift-Tab to make the selection 2 bars exactly
  • In BD, hit Capture selection, and visually check that the selection end shows 12. If not, type it in.
  • Hit Generate, and choose to Preserve sample position.
Now BD has created a correct tempo map for those two bars, and you just continue in the same way throughout the track.
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Old 12-10-2010, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: Beat detective from midi track - no click- help, please?

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Make sure BD is set to work with MIDI and click on Bar|Beat marker generation. I always work in region view.
  • Tab to the first note
  • Trim region start to this note
  • Place the region on any bar (lets say bar 10)
  • Start playback from that bar, and count along. I do it in chunks, so I'd probably hit the up arrow right before I've played two full bars.
  • Shift-Tab to make the selection 2 bars exactly
  • In BD, hit Capture selection, and visually check that the selection end shows 12. If not, type it in.
  • Hit Generate, and choose to Preserve sample position.
Now BD has created a correct tempo map for those two bars, and you just continue in the same way throughout the track.
thank you -- will try now.
I was doing most of this, but a few little things missing:

I did not cut the region into 2-bar sections
I did not line the first event up with a downbeat
I am working in 3/4 time, but that shouldn't matter (setting BD for 3/4)
Will try this as soon as I break from current mix.
Thanks so much for the hand holding.

best,

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Old 12-10-2010, 08:26 AM
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I owe you a beer.
Thank you.
Saved me about 100 hours of having to rethink my parts for the print versions!
The DUC has one of the highest levels of signal to noise!
Thank you thank you thank you thank you!

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I owe you a beer.
Thank you.
Saved me about 100 hours of having to rethink my parts for the print versions!
The DUC has one of the highest levels of signal to noise!
Thank you thank you thank you thank you!
Glad I could help.
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