Benefit Of Using Win 7 64 bit and More RAM?

[lennieh]

Originally Posted by dougdude9

Thanks for the quick replies guys!

I guess the main question I want to focus on is the memory. One of my plugins is Spectrasonics Trilian. I also have Superior Drummer... both of these alone can easily eat up RAM.

Since Pro Tools 10 is 32bit the most it can use is 4gb (prob a little less actually). This includes the VI's that open up in it... I'm assuming anyway. Is there a way to make the VI's use memory outside of Pro Tools allotted amount? If not, I really don't see any reason to have more than say 6 or 8gb of ram. However, if you can make the VI's use the memory outside of the Pro Tools 4gb limit, then we are talking!

VE Pro works really well, I've got the new Roots SDX and with all the mic options there it's easy to load up a 4Gb kit. Obvioulsy completely impossible in Protools, but works great.

Also the Disk caching feature in Protools allows you to load all your audio into memory, this is a 64-bit process and you basically use as much memory as you have. I'm running with 16GB and never run out, my sessions aren't big, but I can have a big kit in Superior, Omnisphere and full disk-caching....

Memory is cheap, get as much as you can afford... And PT11 will be 64-bit

[lowlights]

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

The benefit is that while PT is limited to 4 gigs, it doesn't need to share that 4 gigs with everything else.

This is a point I've wondered about - running a 32-bit program in a 64-bit OS. If I have 6 GB of RAM available (triple channel DDR3, planning to go to 12 GB once PT "goes to 11"), and the OS takes 1 GB of RAM, does PT (for example), still see 4 GB (okay, 3.2 to 3.7 GB) fully available to it?

Does the OS sort of "tuck out of the way" in a sense?

Or - since PT only recognizes 4 GB, does it think the OS is using that same 4 GB?

[Shan]

Originally Posted by lowlights

If I have 6 GB of RAM available (triple channel DDR3, planning to go to 12 GB once PT "goes to 11"), and the OS takes 1 GB of RAM, does PT (for example), still see 4 GB (okay, 3.2 to 3.7 GB) fully available to it?

PT will utilize all 4 GB of RAM completely in a 64-bit OS(not 3.x GB). The more RAM, the better.

Shane

[lowlights]

Perfect, thanks for the explain. Nice that the OS is at least smart enough to "get out of the way"

I don't use a lot of VI (usually Mini Grand and maybe Superior Drummer) and haven't really maxed out my quad-core yet with those two and a dozen audio tracks (my big sessions as a hobbyist). But I wanted to understand.

And if PT opens up to 64-bit with PT 11, I don't think I'll ever have really "need" to go the ReWire route (I tried it once, and it really confused me - but I was just fiddling about that day). End of the year, I can probably just pick up three sticks of 4 GB triple channel for $200 and go to town.

[spenner]

Originally Posted by Shan

PT will utilize all 4 GB of RAM completely in a 64-bit OS(not 3.x GB). The more RAM, the better.

Shane

PT will not get to 4 GB of RAM on my Win 7 Pro 64 bit setup. It crashes in the 2.7-3.2 range. Is this now possible with Windows and PT10, or is there something I can do to change this on my setup?

[Shan]

Originally Posted by spenner

PT will not get to 4 GB of RAM on my Win 7 Pro 64 bit setup. It crashes in the 2.7-3.2 range. Is this now possible with Windows and PT10, or is there something I can do to change this on my setup?

How much RAM do you have in your system?

Shane

[spenner]

Originally Posted by Shan

How much RAM do you have in your system?

Shane

8 GB on the Core 2 Quad and 12 GB on the i7 930. Before Reaper, on a normal session with VI's, everything went well until I hit the 2.5+ range. CPU was fine.

[DarylG]

Far some reason a very few people can get close to 4GB, but most machines seem to crash way before that. I can get around 2.8GB before the inevitable crashes start.

D

[faceb]

Hi, i'm dreaming about using 4gb of ram with protools !
But if i can go to 2.5 it's already a good goal....
As i'm a power user of SoundToys, Autotune, and convolution reverbs :
mixing with protools is a real marathon !
And if you have UAD2 card like me..... It's worst. The "save" problem with UAD2 is there since PT 7.0 !!!!!!

If someone can use 4gb of ram i want to see a screen shot because actually i think it's impossible, and if a windows user can have a working UAD2 with protools, i'd like to know how.

I'm still mixing with protools as i use it since it's born, but I will definetly move if 64bit dosen't solve this problems. I'm tired to reboot PT ten times a day and my clients more than me.

PT 10.2
i7 2600k
asuss P8Z68
16GB GSKILL 2133