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Re: Can this be done with PT10? (Realistic Strings)
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I've been writing music since 14. I sing too. I play the keyboards only. However I am very technical also so learning to produce my music is my goal. My ultimate goal is to digitize my songs. Those that I ve writted and those that I have not yet and will. I want to be my own producer first before I see what I can do with that music. I dont intend to get into the profession of working on other people's music, I dont have time for that, I have a good primary job. I am not doing it for the money. |
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The reason I sound like I know nothing is because I stopped sequencing music since 1995 and not only lost 20 years of computer-aided-music-production, but also forgot some of the basic lingo and ways to do things. I am the type that when I do sth I do it as well as possible. However, what I see in the "putting music together" area, coming back after 20 years, is: Like with anything, one has to have the BEST TOOLS before starting to implement his own original music. Meaning, I am a chef (I leave the writer part out for now), with what I want to do (produce my own original music). A chef must have the freshest, highest quality ingredients, before anything else. No matter how much he knows about putting together food, implementing recipes (ways of processing, packaging, preparing), the food wont taste good if the ingredients are not FRESH. The ingredients of the chef in this case, is the TOOLS I need in order to make my music sound good. That's 100% obvious even to me. And from the little I have seen coming back from that slumber, is that, a lot has happened with processing sound (e.g. elastic audio, etc), but even MORE has happened with sampling (e.g. what's happening with kontakt and the VIs in there). I mean I sampled the giant piano on kontakt and was blown away by how amazing it sounds. For the first time I had a piano sound that was AMAZING. That alone make a HUGE difference in my recipes now. What this means: A good chef, uses the FRESHEST ingredients in slight or small doses. That's why I want to know what the best is (so I see if I can afford it - if it's 10s of thousands maybe not, if it's less OK - back to the point:). Too much and average sounding instruments = crap. Little + amazingly sounding + put together from someone who has a good ear about making it match/packaged/prepared-to-sound-together = success. A great example of what I am trying to say is "Alicia Key's and Nick Minaj's That girl is on fire" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J6EGqOFNfM I mean listen to how the guy that has produced this, has put 2 or 3 AMAZINGLY WELL SOUNDING instruments (drums of war, a piano, etc) and processed the two voices in a way that sounds amazing. Especially the voice of Nicki with the drums. Amazing! Now that's a great chef. What I can do, is be a great chef in the matching of ingredients (sounds) for my songs. I have the ability to say, this sounds good and this does not (as much as taste in sound can be subjective). I also have the writing ability and I am not a bad singer (for a studio voice I am good.) What I dont know is: 1, What are the best ingredients/tools to have TODAY. 2. As a secondary issue (and I can gain that knowledge once I find the right souces): studio techniques to improve vocals and backing vocals (I know the basics but when I learn more it will sound more than great). But again, that's secondary for now and I am guessing the knowledge is out there. |
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Appreciate the advice. However, I believe that even the best of the best, when they perform their best, that performance is not something that cannot be taught (I am talking technique not talent). It's just hidden. Naturally. Always been that way with everything that makes money for someone. OK. However, I want to find the best source of the best known-performance-knowledge available. Meaning of what's available out there (yes it wont be the latest maybe, that's OK, it will be more than good enough) Usually the things that make the difference are not super complicated things. Simplicity is sophistication. Great sounding sound/music was mostly NOT complicated to make. Best tools (sounds and the guy who knew how to mix and match as one package) PLUS great talent, is what made the difference. |
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From what I wrote above, I am the type of person, that likes the bottom-line items. I do appreciate academia, I have been far with schools, etc but I dont want to get into a class with a borring guy talking about stuff that does not make a difference just so he sounds sophisticated. I am not anti-reading, I am not anti-small-things (small things make the difference), I am am pro-things that will better that sound, or the match-and-mix of that sounds. Who is the guy that really knows these days? Who is the bottom line guy? Who is the Steve Jobs of music chefs? |
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Re: Can this be done with PT10? (Realistic Strings)
Just curious, what's the song?
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It's very easy to overcook things with these tools....
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Re: Can this be done with PT10? (Realistic Strings)
lol
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To pay for my rudeness I will offer my advice about learning current music production: go to the bookstore and buy every magazine on the shelf that deals with the subject. Computer Music, Mix, Sound on Sound, Electronic Musician, EQ, there are several from the UK, etc. What I have always liked about magazines is that there is very current info mixed with basic info mixed with specialized info and even the advertisements are enlightening. Do this for a few months and you will probably have a million more questions, but they might be more pointed and specific to what you are trying to achieve.
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