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double S1 vs S3 workflow
anybody compared double S1 against single S3?
apart from the obvious stuff - like lack of second horizontal knob strip and function keys on S1's, and lack of dedicated tablet on S3 - do layouts from S3 open on double S1s (16 faders)? - do all 16 parameters of EQ or COMP spill to double S1 (so you have parameters 1-8 on the first and 9-16 on the second S1)? |
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
IMHO, If you do not need the AVB of the S3 or the double encoders or the mic/line inputs and you’re looking from a cost perspective then two S1’s with a Dock can be a great setup. Not to mention you can expand the S1 configuration up to 32 faders and tablet meters if wanted.
Layouts will function the same on both surfaces. |
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
thank you @its2loud for your comment
just to double check: my layouts created on avid S3 (16 channels) will open on two avid S1's (8 + 8 channels), correct? |
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
I believe they should. If you’d like to send me your template with layouts I can double check for you but I see no reason why they shouldn’t.
Eucon will see the number of channels available based on your hardware in EuControl. |
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
thank you, PM sent!
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
Here are some screen grabs of what the Layouts page in EuControl looks like with 2 S1. Showing 16 faders available. One with no assignments and the other with all 16 channels assigned for a layout.
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
Yes
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I went from a S3 to double S1+Dock
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
The inability to stack multiple S3s for more than 16 faders is what always held me back from them. As soon as the S1s became stable I jumped; currently at 3 S1s and a dock, but might go to a fourth. They do behave as one surface with full spilling of parameters.
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http://www.richbreen.com ---------------------------------------- Mac Studio / Ventura, PT 2023.12.HDX, Avid HD I/Os and Metric Halo ULN8, 3xS1/Dock Also running a Mac Studio Ultra / Ventura / HDX / MTRX / S6 |
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
How do you feel about switching from the S3 to double S1s? Anything you miss?
I am currently weighing up the 2 setups. One thing I am guessing, is that the S3 has a lot more dedicated buttons and easier to call up various settings? Plus that 2nd row of knobs will be hella useful?
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Re: double S1 vs S3 workflow
Just weighing in with an opinion; The price of an S3 gets you a pair of S1's and a Dock. Even with a single tablet for the dock, it looks to cover everything the S3 does, and maybe a bit more elegantly. I like that users can choose to put the dock anywhere they want(it always bugged me that C24 put transport on the right when I wanted it on the left). Also, the S1 works fine without a tablet, so that expense can be delayed or nixed. As for the double row of encoders, I do lots of live mixing and loved the original D-Show(2 rows of encoders) and then got stuck on Profiles with a single row and really didn't miss the extra row
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