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Old 01-25-2012, 03:15 AM
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Default Pro Tools crash after second bounce

Hi,

I've been running Pro Tools (first 9 and now 10) on Windows 7 for over a year now with never an issue or a crash, on two different computers. Now I have a session that I've been working on, and it crashes reproducibly after the second bounce (i.e. bounce first time, no problems. bounce second time, crash in the middle of the bounce process). The crash gives the "access violation, unable to read location xxx" message.

I've tried re-installing Pro Tools and trashing the preferences.

I originally had some Strike and Structure tracks in the session. I re-installed those plugins from scratch after reinstalling PT. I have deleted those tracks from the session and now only have audio, which has not helped.

Probably unrelated but in case it gives someone any ideas - I had automated Strike to change speed to double-time for a short section in the middle of the song. This was working initially, but not long before I started getting this issue, the speed was not changing to double-time reproducibly upon bounce. Which is why I had been bouncing twice, to try to get a bounce where the change worked properly.

I tried other sessions and so far this is the only one that has this issue. Any ideas? Sandra report follows. I'm using a digi 003 as interface. Thanks so much in advance, hopefully someone can lead me in the right direction.


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Computer
Model : System manufacturer System Product Name
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
Host Name : Home-PC
User : Northstar

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Speed : 3.81GHz
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
Integrated Data Cache : 2x 32kB, Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L2 On-board Cache : 2x 256kB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 8-way, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
L3 On-board Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, ATC, 12-way, Exclusive, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing

Computer
Mainboard : Asus P8H67-M PRO
BIOS : AMI 1003 05/10/2011
Bus(es) : X-Bus PCI PCIe USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processor Advanced PIC (APIC) : No
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3

Chipset
Model : ASUS Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 103MHz (103MHz)
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 687MHz (1.37GHz)

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Kingston 9905458-026A00LF 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Kingston 9905458-026A00LF 4GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-25 4-34-10-5)

Video System
Video Adapter : ASUS EAH6570 Series (SM5.0 650MHz, 1GB 900MHz, PCIe 2.00 x16)

Graphics Processor
OpenCL Processor : Turks (480SP 6C 650MHz, 512MB)
Compute Shader Processor : ASUS EAH6570 Series (1008.3MB 900MHz)

Storage Devices
Seagate ST3500413AS (500.1GB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache) : 466GB (C:)
Iomega External HD 1TB (USB) : 932GB (E:)
Maxtor OneTouch II 100.3GB (USB) : 93GB (F:)
ASUS DRW-24B1ST a (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : 165MB (D:)

Logical Storage Devices
System Reserved : 100MB (NTFS)
Iomega HDD (E:) : 932GB (NTFS) @ Iomega External HD 1TB (USB)
Maxtor (F:) : 93GB (NTFS) @ Maxtor OneTouch II 100.3GB (USB)
Hard Disk (C:) : 466GB (NTFS) @ Seagate ST3500413AS (500.1GB, SATA600, 3.5", 7200rpm, NCQ, 16MB Cache)
banjovi (D:) : 165MB (UDF) @ ASUS DRW-24B1ST a (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)

Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ASUS Cougar Point LPC Controller
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T0 C3-33
Audio Device : ASUS Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Codec : Realtek Semiconductor High Definition Audio
Audio Device : ASUS AA90h
Serial Port(s) : 1
Parallel Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : ASUS Cougar Point 6 port SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Controller : ASUS PATA IDE Host Controller
USB Controller 1 : ASUS Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #2
USB Controller 2 : ASUS Cougar Point USB Enhanced Host Controller #1
USB Controller 3 : ASUS 1042h
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : VIA VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus

Printers and Faxes
Printer : Send To Microsoft OneNote 2010 Driver (1200x1200, Colour)
Printer : Samsung ML-2525W Series (1200x1200, Colour)
Printer : Microsoft XPS Document Writer (600x600, Colour)
Fax : Microsoft Shared Fax Driver (200x200)

Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (Ethernet, 100Mbps)

Power Management
Mains (AC) Line Status : On-Line

Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Home 6.01.7600
Platform Compliance : x64

Windows Experience Index
Current System : 5.9
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Old 01-25-2012, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: Pro Tools crash after second bounce

So this crash on second bounce happens only with this session right ?

Can you try to create a new session --> import session data from the suspicious one --> try again.

Still happening ?
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: Pro Tools crash after second bounce

Yes, only that one session (I've tested a few others to make sure). Thanks for the advice I will try that when I get back tonight.
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Pro Tools crash after second bounce

ok well I tried to re-import session data into a new session (first time I do this so hopefully I didn't forget something obvious, but it seems to have worked). Same problem occuring part-way through the second bounce, except this time the error message says "Access Error - No RTTI Data!"

Any ideas? Really bad timing for this to happen, leaving for a week tomorrow and needed to get this mix done...
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: Pro Tools crash after second bounce

I'm guessing no one has any further ideas, but in case it helps, it always crashes at the exact same timestamp the second time I bounce (3:14 minutes left).
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Default Re: Pro Tools crash after second bounce

just thinking out loud here.

So a quick resume : (correct me if I'm wrong)

- Issue only happens with this particular session
- Import session data into new session issue follows the new session.

My suggestion at this point is to try narrow it down something like this.
Not sure how many track you have so taking the example of 16 tracks :

Scenario 1 :

- first 8 tracks imported into new session including your master
- bounce twice

Does it still happen

- tracks 9 to 16 including master in yet another new session

Does it still happen

Hopefully already at this point you have narrowed down the issue to either the first set of 8 or second set of 8

From that point onwards it is an elimination process.

Scenario 2 :

- import all tracks into new session but without plugins / automation
- Bounce

does it happen ... if no start adding plugins etc ... pretty easy to do from that point with import session data menu through match tracks feature and add data to import

I still think something is causing this in your session. Can be a specific plugin or audio file or whatever ... only way is to isolate the bad boy and hopefully fix or find a solution for it.
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