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Re: Are carbons head amps adjustable from PT
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Their partner developers aren't using midi to control their preamps. They use software translation to locally convert the midi from Pro Tools to something much more functional that reflects modern, networked-audio workflows. That is why you can toss a 50 channels of Focusrite MP8R, or Grace 108s, or MTRX interface 300 meters from the control room and return 50 channels of audio, and control them from Pro Tools using nothing more than a single ethernet cable. It is also why you need Rednet/DADman/etc open on the host computer... so it can do the realtime translation. Avid have also Euconised an xmon, using nothing more than a free software application. The only pro tools capable preamp with a midi port still on it is the Avid Pre... and I'd be surprised if anyone actually buys them new anymore.
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It's extremely unlikely that you willl be able to chain Carbons in a meaningful way.
DSP processing will be limited to the local inputs and outputs. Even 3 chained UAD Apollos can only use local DSP for inputs. And those are connected together with 40Gb/s Thunderbolt. Chained Carbons will be connected with 1 Gb/s Ethernet. So sharing DSP across channels will, in my estimation, be impossible. |
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Depends how you define meaningful, I suppose. Chaining multiple Carbons will still allow more I/O with DSP processing, or less I/O with more DSP processing per channel.
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Headphone output on box 2 needs to mix a channel from box one - then the audio has to be passed across in real time. I don't know how you'd do it. It's certainly very complex - maybe there's a clever way around, but I don't see it myself. The point is that the DSP mixer is a central resource - it needs access to all ins and outs and channels in real time to be able to perform the processing. If the DSP is split, you can't do that. |
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Like I said, it really depends on how you define meaningful. Other than HDX, there are very few, if any FPGA/DSP equipped audio interfaces that actually matrix DSP processing across multiple devices. There are still plenty of people out there that run multiple of those devices for expanded setups, though. And quite happily. The AVB implementation in Carbon seems quite unique in that it has 156 channels in a single interface - 128 reserved purely for Pro Tools shuffling audio back and forth between CPU and DSP under the hood, and 28 channels that appear as the usual I/O. That already seems like a lot more than an Apollo. All it really needs is the ability to sum DSP outputs between devices to provide coherent headphone mixes across systems, and it'll go a long way to serving quite a few users expanded needs. Given how few monitor mixes the Carbon is designed to handle, it would probably take quite a bit less than half a DSP chip to achieve...
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The Euconization of the preamps and the monitor controls/headphone amps is essential imho. There are too few dedicated controls for the head amps and preamps on the front of Carbon to be fast enough in a recording situation. Best Mark
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Just and aside,
Anyone care to comment on the quality of the Carbon headphone amps? |
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I'm comparing between my 003+ Rack and my Focusrite Clarett 8PreX. I tend to only need 3 or 4 HP mixes at a time and it works out great for me. the times that I have needed more than 4 I have simply split them off of #3 or #4.
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