Copy clip gain on multiple clips?

[gdgross]

Title pretty much says it all -

Is there a way to do this? If I select multiple clips, the option to copy clip gain is greyed out, and the shortcut obviously doesn't work either.

Here's where it would be useful for me: I have a vocal track that I tuned up a bit in melodyne, then bounced to audio and imported on a new playlist, so I could deactivate melodyne and edit the new clip as I might any other audio. Subsequently, I heard another note I wanted to touch up a bit (in melodyne), but had already done extensive clip gain edits to bring up quiet syllables, reduce some breaths, reduce a plosive, etc. also I went ahead and cut out silent sections and moved a few syllables around, so that I ended up with several different clips in the track.

It would be super useful to just re activate melodyne, do the quick edit, and then re bounce and import to a new playlist, and apply the clip gain edits from the previous playlist.

Any way to do this? I was able to copy the clip gain lines from each clip and position my cursor appropriately to paste into the right section of the new playlist, but it'd be nice if I could do it all at once...

Thanks!

[YYR123]

I believe that it is Shift Command up arrow.... I. will have to check tomorrow and let you know

[gwhatley]

You could use "coalesce clip gain to volume automation" on the source track, then copy that volume automation down, and then, "coalesce volume automation to clip gain" on both tracks to return the moves to clip gain.

[gdgross]

Thanks! didn't know that feature even existed

[joachim]

Originally Posted by gdgross

Thanks! didn't know that feature even existed

... for PT11 HD.

[gdgross]

Oh, whoops!

Hah, I'm native

[joachim]

Originally Posted by gdgross

I'm native

You are non-HD. I am native and HD (not using HDX, but RME Fireface with PT 11 HD). Native alone does not clarify.

[levelaudio]

Originally Posted by gwhatley

You could use "coalesce clip gain to volume automation" on the source track, then copy that volume automation down, and then, "coalesce volume automation to clip gain" on both tracks to return the moves to clip gain.

Not sure if you've noticed this, but often my coalesced clip gain-to-volume automation doesn't often sound the same. I think volume automation is interpolated and more laggy than clip gain, which seems to be rendered in real time in the wave data, and not interpolated (you'll notice the difference when adjusting it while looping a clip, as opposed to adjusting the volume/trim automation on a track while looping a clip). Either that, or depending on plug-in use and resulting system latency, the volume automation might just be delayed a little.

Either way, I always mix using clip gain these days as much as I can as it is easier to dial in while looping a section, and is always more accurate than volume automation. However, coalescing CG-to-VA and back again is a handy trick when you want to move a clip around, but leave the clip gain in place in the timeline until you get the clip timing adjusted the way you want it. So that's definitely a solid tip!

[gwhatley]

Right you are. On a non-HD system, you can select a source clip, type ctrl+shift+c to copy, use ; to move down while keeping the selection, then press just V to paste the clip gain to that area of the clip. It is tedious as it is one clip at a time, but a macro could be written in keyboard maestro to make it work more easily.

[gwhatley]

Looking at this more closely, it will depend on how much editing you've done to the destination track. If none, then this works fine. But if there are a lot of edits in "track 2", it would work better to select one of those clips, then hit "P" to move up to the source track maintaining the same selection, then copy the clip gain, etc. as before. And again, since it's just a series of keyboard taps, it can very easily be made into your own custom keyboard shortcut - sounds like it'd be very handy!