Sad about loss of Pro Control in PT11

[vudoo]

Avid...keep the PC alive and working with PT 11 and you can count me in for an HDX + IO 16x16 upgrade!

[lafilmsound]

[QUOTE=stevegalante;2029665]I should resume the links somewhere but there is a lot of threads on GS and videos on YT, the 46" is said to cost around 15-17k depending on options. If you can't find info I'll gather the
Loved my pc but Euphonix will certainly come out with something awesome....never buying anything named raven, he should have named it mystical dark ninja warrior from middle earth- that would have been slightly less dorky

[Ru_C]

Originally Posted by vudoo

Avid...keep the PC alive and working with PT 11 and you can count me in for an HDX + IO 16x16 upgrade!

Yep, me too..

[Ru_C]

Originally Posted by Southsidemusic

I was talking to Avid reps today @messe2013 #FMM2013 and they told me after lot's of prying that the Pro Control "might start & be used for basic stuff" like faders and volume and maybe a few more operations but NOT more if it starts up on my Mac Pro so maybe we should have waited to see when 11 HD ships and please don't take this as it "will" work but as maybe you can atleast try when PT11 comes around if you don't need to sell it before.

That would be amazing if it did. Just basic fader & Transport would make it worth hanging onto imho

[stevegalante]

Originally Posted by vudoo

Avid...keep the PC alive and working with PT 11 and you can count me in for an HDX + IO 16x16 upgrade!

I'm ready too

[JFreak]

Well this too remains to be seen.

I remember that... umm, I do not remember that well... was it PT6 era when lots of really old control surfaces were obsoleted -- Digidesign provided the old controller personalities complimentary, but offered no support. So if you had one, you could keep using it as long as it worked, but Digidesign did not do any fixes to the controller personalities after being EOL'd.

Same might go with the now EOL'd control surfaces, but I do not know.

That said;

Anyone who has bought a Pro Control when it was sold, has been able to write it off in tax reductions by now. A hobbyist can never justify control surface that costly if there is no business sense involved. And to justify Avid a little; they have offered nice hardware exchanges every single time a new top of the line control surface has been introduced.

I do not know. It might be that PC does not work at all with PT11 or it might be so that the old personality can be used with it with zero support. I do not have neither PC nor PT11 so I cannot really say.

All this is just an academic guess.

[RyanC]

Jfreak that is a textbook example of broken window economics. Just because something can be a tax write off is never an excuse for unnecessary spending.

Not to mention the ecological aspect. Hopefully avid are at least aware that as long as they do things like this intentionally they can in no way consider themselves a green company.

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by RyanC

Jfreak that is a textbook example of broken window economics. Just because something can be a tax write off is never an excuse for unnecessary spending.

Not to mention the ecological aspect. Hopefully avid are at least aware that as long as they do things like this intentionally they can in no way consider themselves a green company.

Yes, that is, but it is how things go. But...

When was PC introduced? When was last PC sold? How long does it take for a working business to write off gear?

Spending is not unnecessary if it can be used to make money. That is after all why companies exist -- to make money. And how they make money; well, they will first have to spend some, then charge some, and the difference is called profit.

Gear is only supported for limited amount of time. Or would you really expect an airline company getting any support for a DC8 airplane today?

Writeoffs are just business. If you do not have a business, then you do not buy as much gear. That is just how it works. No offense.

[RyanC]

Thanks for the mini economics lesson.

Now can we move on to economics 102, and talk about ROI? Spending to replace a broken window is unnecessary no matter how much business you may have with the new window. Especially when the company that sold you the window breaks it intentionally with the intent of forcing you to replace it. What business doesn't care about 15k?

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.as...7-fb26e09525b7

54 years of service from a DC8, that's 54 years of parts availability. That is ROI, support and business ethics on a level Avid can absolutely not claim to have. For example EOL of the midi? $600 bench fee to open a PRE? $250 to reprogram a bricked HD|N card?

And I do run a business and have spent over 50k on avid gear thank you, no matter what that is not an excuse for unnecessary waste. It is what it is, but the lesson I have been taught over the years is that compared to the rest of the market Avid hardware has an especially bad ROI, and I for one will continue to use the software and by-in-large avoid as much of the hardware as possible.

[Dave Lang]

I for one will continue to use the software and by-in-large avoid as much of the hardware as possible.

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