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Old 11-03-2024, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: PT 2024.3 NEW issue MIDI LATENCY

just for understanding.
does this issue happens all the time or randomly?

I tried to recreate this, but everything works perfect here. no midi offset.
I use a ton of plug ins und VIs and never had problem with the last PT Version.

I remember I had a similar problem many years ago with an old PT version.


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Old 11-03-2024, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: PT 2024.3 NEW issue MIDI LATENCY

for me, the midi latency happens consistently (all the time) in 2024.10

no one seems to be able to pinpoint why. some possibilities:
Mac Studio
HDX / Sonnet TB2 chassis (with TB3 adapter)
Antelope Galaxy interface
Mojave

all i can say is everything works fine in 2023.12.1 with the exact same setup.
but is broken in any PT version update after that
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Old 11-03-2024, 10:16 AM
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Default Re: PT 2024.3 NEW issue MIDI LATENCY

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for me, the midi latency happens consistently (all the time) in 2024.10

no one seems to be able to pinpoint why. some possibilities:
Mac Studio
HDX / Sonnet TB2 chassis (with TB3 adapter)
Antelope Galaxy interface
Mojave

all i can say is everything works fine in 2023.12.1 with the exact same setup.
but is broken in any PT version update after that
ok, so it is not a bug for everyone.

I dont believe that this depends on your hardware or OSX.

I know you wrote this happens with all VIs and plug-ins.
But have you done the same test with a standard Avid plug-in like Maxim instead of Auto-Tune on the “parallel” track? I'm asking because I've had problems with Auto-Tune in the past and I think some versions provided incorrect latency/delay compensation.
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Old 11-03-2024, 10:26 AM
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ok, so it is not a bug for everyone.

I dont believe that this depends on your hardware or OSX.

I know you wrote this happens with all VIs and plug-ins.
But have you done the same test with a standard Avid plug-in like Maxim instead of Auto-Tune on the “parallel” track? I'm asking because I've had problems with Auto-Tune in the past and I think some versions provided incorrect latency/delay compensation.
yes i fully tested my 2024.10 issue with many different VI's, 3rd party Plugin companies, avid plugs, etc. before rolling back to 2023.12.1 not sure why this is the "magic" version but something changed after it that whacks out my rig.
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Old 11-04-2024, 03:04 AM
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Still working as bad as in the last couple of versions here as well. If there is latency in the session, the midi records way behind in time. Or plays back, whatever, the bottom line is that you manually have to shift it forward manually. Super annoying. It often seems easier do draw in notes that to play it. This has got to be fixed! The very least you want and expect from a midi track is for it to play back what you played like you played it. I dont give a rats ass about the midi plugins etc. Get this fixed first, then worry about extra bells and whistles!

I am on a Mac Studio M2 Ultra using 1 HDX card in a TB chassis. I tried both with and without "hybrid engine", in case that had anything to to with it, but it did not.
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Old 11-04-2024, 06:44 AM
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I have had nothing but problems with just about every VI since 2024.3. So many crashes and crash report no longer calls out plugin so I have no way of telling which plugin is the problem. Anything MIDI is a disaster. Still broken in 2024.6 and alas 2024.10. I have now given up and reverted back to 2023.12. I will not be submitting tickets as they are a sucking vortex of time. I will not pay for support plan to have the privilege of being a beta-tester. What a disappointment.
dgwitte

Very interested to see what has been said to in your cases and who in support is not addressing your concerns. Could you flip me a case # or 2 in a PM so I can look and address?

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Old 11-04-2024, 08:17 AM
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Still working as bad as in the last couple of versions here as well. If there is latency in the session, the midi records way behind in time. Or plays back, whatever, the bottom line is that you manually have to shift it forward manually. Super annoying. It often seems easier do draw in notes that to play it. This has got to be fixed! The very least you want and expect from a midi track is for it to play back what you played like you played it. I dont give a rats ass about the midi plugins etc. Get this fixed first, then worry about extra bells and whistles!

I am on a Mac Studio M2 Ultra using 1 HDX card in a TB chassis. I tried both with and without "hybrid engine", in case that had anything to to with it, but it did not.
i tried the HDX hybrid engine/no hybrid engine test as well. no go.

one other side note: besides my studio HDX rig, i also have a home macbook pro rig w/ PT Ultimate, same exact OS Monterey 12.7.6, same exact plugins, except no HDX card/TB chassis using a UAD Volt interface & that rig works fine with the new PT. who knows why but i feel like the issue has something to do with HDX and/or the TB chassis. what changed from 2023.12.1 to 2024?? that is the question. and no one @ avid seems to be able to want to answer/fix it.
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Old 11-04-2024, 08:50 AM
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Mac Studio, no HDX, Apogee Symphony interface— same exact problem. The only way to record MIDI without major delay is to have no plugins on any of the tracks in the session.
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Old 11-04-2024, 12:08 PM
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i tried the HDX hybrid engine/no hybrid engine test as well. no go.

one other side note: besides my studio HDX rig, i also have a home macbook pro rig w/ PT Ultimate, same exact OS Monterey 12.7.6, same exact plugins, except no HDX card/TB chassis using a UAD Volt interface & that rig works fine with the new PT. who knows why but i feel like the issue has something to do with HDX and/or the TB chassis. what changed from 2023.12.1 to 2024?? that is the question. and no one @ avid seems to be able to want to answer/fix it.
Furthest from the truth strawb.... of course we want to fix/release but there has to be a reason why we didn't with this particular issue.

Yes you reported it 8 months ago but it wasnt until cases got created that traction on it was made. Posting on the duc doesnt ensure support see's it and acts, creating a case or cases folks does. Tope and I had just begun to pop in here so we escalated it along with a few other folks reporting it like sklar_battles, innerbooty, and more.....

The product design and development peep isnt in today and will be back mid week and it will be the first thing I ask and report on once I know.

stand by..... we ( tope and I ) will get you answers.

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Old 11-04-2024, 12:14 PM
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Mac Studio, no HDX, Apogee Symphony interface— same exact problem. The only way to record MIDI without major delay is to have no plugins on any of the tracks in the session.
Hi there cleekpav

There wasn't a case for this with your account so I created one for you..... case # 04886008

I found your spec's:

Mac Studio M1 Ultra
Sonoma 14.5
Apogee Symphony
Pro Tools Studio 2024.10

Correct me if that is wrong. I will tag the bug to the case.

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