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Old 08-28-2001, 11:10 AM
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Default tips for recording horns and strings

I'm going to be adding a trombone, maybe a sax, and a viola to some mixes and am wondering if anyone has any tips/tricks in mic placement/effects, etc?

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Old 08-28-2001, 06:42 PM
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use ribbon mics.
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Old 08-28-2001, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: tips for recording horns and strings

For recording sax, I have gotten some nice recordings using a tube U47's. U 87 works fine as well. Position the mic pointed at the body of the sax (where the keys and players hands are), not at the bell, at a distance of about 6 inches. The bell can be a bit honky, you'll get a much more controlled sound from the body. Fet 47's work for the trombone. TLM 193's too. Point the diaphram at the bell. The distance will depend on how dynamic of a part the trombone player will be playing.

Depending on the sound you want for the sax you might also try a 414 TLII.

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Old 08-29-2001, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: tips for recording horns and strings

Thanks for your input, looks like i'm suffering in the mic department. Where does one get ribbon mic's? Looking around I couldn't find any of the mentioned above. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places?

abraxas, thanks for the placement tips, those will be useful -- I'm so used to tracking guitars and vocals, this will be interesting [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img],

thanks again,

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Old 08-29-2001, 04:44 PM
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Old 08-30-2001, 11:25 PM
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In my experience, the room is just as important as the mic choice when recording horns. I also love the sound of the RCA 44bx.

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Old 08-31-2001, 04:35 AM
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We also have an old RCA 44A (ribbon) which is wonderful on brass. These are vintage mics and not cheap.
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Old 08-31-2001, 09:16 AM
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From the link above I noticed that even the reproductions aren't cheap. Why don't any manufacturers like akg make a new version of these mic's? Just not cost effective? No demand? Looks like these mic's will be something I'll have to add down the road..
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Old 08-31-2001, 09:49 AM
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AKG never made a ribbon mic.
Royer makes new mics that are somewhat more affordable and sound just as good.
Beyer makes some ribbons in the 500 USD range.
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Old 08-31-2001, 10:16 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mike Tholen:
AKG never made a ribbon mic.
Royer makes new mics that are somewhat more affordable and sound just as good.
Beyer makes some ribbons in the 500 USD range.
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mike,

so they do make new versions! Do you know of any links to the Royer/Beyer mics? Thanks much-- [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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