I/O limit for PT HD with 3rd party converters?

[feliponk]

Nope, I know very well what I'm talking about. At the end to have more that 32 I/O is just a software patch that allow ProTools to see the other 32 channels, that's it.

[Wall2Wall]

I haven't the slightest idea. I was just responding to the "S3 is only a controller" statement.

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by feliponk

Nope, I know very well what I'm talking about. At the end to have more that 32 I/O is just a software patch that allow ProTools to see the other 32 channels, that's it.

You are totally missing the point - the system you're talking about is not regular PT like we're talking about here. Once again PT is limited to 32 I/O when not using Avid HD/HDX/TDM cards. The S3L-X is using HDX dsp in the system so that's how they're getting more than 32 I/O. And they're not using 'standard' PT like we're talking about here.

[feliponk]

The code for ProTools is the same...

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by feliponk

The code for ProTools is the same...

Maybe. But once again you are missing the point - PT without using HD Native/HDX/TDM cards and compatible ad/da converters can't do more than 32 I/O and the S3L-X is using HDX dsp. That's where it get the more than 32 I/O.

So it gets back to the question the op raised and that's with the boxes he was asking about you cannot do more than 32 I/O even if you have an HD license asset.

[janmuths]

Thanks for all the input everyone! I've received official word from UAD. Here it goes:
"Unfortunately Avid restricts inputs and outputs to 32 channels each when using third party hardware. There is no way around this when you are using third party interfaces as your playback engine except to use a different DAW such as Logic Pro X etc. Thanks!"

We need 48 i/o to connect an analog console. We also need to run different DAWs.
We've had bad experience with running Logic, Ableton etc. with HDX+HDi/os in core-audio mode.

I cannot see a working solution here, so back to the drawing board. I may have to consider 2 computers with 2 sync'd up DAWs - although it is not what I want.

I'll sleep it over.

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by janmuths

Thanks for all the input everyone! I've received official word from UAD. Here it goes:
"Unfortunately Avid restricts inputs and outputs to 32 channels each when using third party hardware. There is no way around this when you are using third party interfaces as your playback engine except to use a different DAW such as Logic Pro X etc. Thanks!"

We need 48 i/o to connect an analog console. We also need to run different DAWs.
We've had bad experience with running Logic, Ableton etc. with HDX+HDi/os in core-audio mode.

I cannot see a working solution here, so back to the drawing board. I may have to consider 2 computers with 2 sync'd up DAWs - although it is not what I want.

I'll sleep it over.

It's sad this happens; even more so because it's an artificial limitation, nothing more. Have you tried Digital Performer? They have a free fully functioning 30 day demo. That would let you know whether it works for you or not. No artificial track limits or anything else.

[Table Syrup Records]

Obviously there is the 32 I/O limitation in PT, but Waves hardware plays friendly with multiple DAW's at the same time. Multiple machines and multiple DAWs for that matter.

You can also get Avid I/O into the SoundGrid network (DLS/DLI), or get plugin DSP into HD Native (DLS).

It really is a shame that PT is limiting third party I/O.... I wish they would open that up.

Just something to consider, as it may open up other options for you. Stellar equipment.

[feliponk]

If it's a MAC, consider Ardour (Free) or the Harrison Mixbus ($79), if it's for recording the DAW doesn't matter actually since you'll have the same I/O.

My 2 cents.

[YYR123]

Presonus Artist is a good place to start also, then expert wav's to PT for editing.

No limit to I/O

Upgrades are really cheap also...