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Old 02-13-2003, 02:57 PM
Allen Hallada Allen Hallada is offline
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Default da BaSsTaRd on Pioneering the AMD (A Trip Down Memory Lane)

Originally posted by Allen Hallada:
DB-One of the pioneers of the PC platform and one of the first to go AMD. Probably still using the same AMD761 chipset too like me. LOL
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hehehe... yup. same old reliable gigabyte GA-7DX rev. 3... me and JPS were the first ones to get this board. i think he still uses his too...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Just a trip down memory lane- I remembered the heat issues you were dealing with at the beginning with the AMD T-bird processors and this motherboard. I think it was a voltage setting problem. Without digging up the post from two years ago, if I remember correctly you had the sides off your case and regular house fans blowing into the case. I wish I had a picture of it as many people would appreciate what it was like in those days of pioneering the AMD system. Now that is sound proofing at its best. We have come along way my friend.
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Old 02-13-2003, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: da BaSsTaRd on Pioneering the AMD (A Trip Down Memory Lane)

For history here is a list of AMD chipsets and most popular motherboards that actually worked with PTLE from the beginning to the present:

KT133 (A7V) June 2000 - first reported AMD in use
KT133a (A7V133) Feb 2001
AMD761 (GA7DX + A7M266) Mar 2001
KT266 (A7V266) Sept 2001
KT266a (A7V266E) Dec 2001
KT333 (A7V333) May 2002
KT400 (A7V8X) Sept 2002
nVidia NForce2 (A7N8X) Oct 2002

And the Duds:
AMD750
AliMagic

And the Want a Bees:
Anything by SIS

What a long road it has been.

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Old 02-13-2003, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: da BaSsTaRd on Pioneering the AMD (A Trip Down Memory Lane)

It just gets better. Here are the first results from the "DAVEC Torture Test" as it was known in those days. The P3s were the most popular machine and weren't able to push past 22 Tracks. Then there was this:

Reported by daBaSsTaRd on April 6, 2001
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24 tracks + 3 aux tracks
1.2GHz Athlon
Giga-Byte GA-7DX
512MB PC2100
2x 7200 seagate ata66

and i had the DUC page in the back the whole time..........
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Which got a response like this from the Pentium crowd:
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PT Version: 5.0.1
Tracks: 10
MOBO: ASUS P3B-F
CPU: P-III 650/100
RAM: 256/100
Drives: 1x 5400 IDE (System), 1x 7200 IDE (audio)

Interesting test, although completely meaningless. Based on my test results you would think that a PIII 650 on an Asus P3B-F is an unuseable piece of junk. This is not the case. There's nothing I can't do with this system.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And this:
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da BaSsTaRd! Wow, those are amazing numbers and you're running a PCI SB card at the same time. You should change your handle to da LuCkY BaSsTaRd!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">To which came this:
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luck has nothing to do with it, my man..... its all AMD engineering...........
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And finally the last straw before the camel's back was broken:
Posted by JPS on April 8, 2001
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PT Version 5.1
GA-7DX motherboard
Athalon 1.2 ghz processor
512 MB (PC 2100)
2 x 7200 HD (Raid w/program)
1 x 7200 HD (Audio storage)

17 Tracks (Storing on D –Audio)
24 Tracks + 5 Aux tracks (Storing on Raid –programs)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And then it was off to the races with our first 200 effects reported by ZNelson on April 25, 2001:

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Well you guys are gonna hate me....
First let me give you my specs.

Athlon 1.33Ghz CPU
GigaByte GA-7DX MB
256M DDR 266Mhz
Audio drive is 18Gig Western Digital SCSI2

24Audio + 16 Aux. tracks
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And that was almost two years ago folks. We really haven't come that far in PT Peformance since that big jump. I predict that this year will bring our next big leap in performance. Will it be P4 or AMD? [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Time will tell.
Enjoy.
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Old 02-13-2003, 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Allen Hallada:
...if I remember correctly you had the sides off your case and regular house fans blowing into the case.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hey, now... i never had a house fan... [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 02-13-2003, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: da BaSsTaRd on Pioneering the AMD (A Trip Down Memory Lane)

yep, i remember all this... i also was one of the first amd people... i remember when i first got the 001 and i came here looking for amd info and all i could find in the duc search was 'it will not work. period.' i could not find one post of a working 001 on an amd system.
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Old 02-13-2003, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: da BaSsTaRd on Pioneering the AMD (A Trip Down Memory Lane)

I was one of the envious P3 owners. 2 years later, that old P3 surfs the internet while my AMD XP makes music... with both sides of the case in place.
It sure has been fun watching all this happen with you guys.
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Old 02-13-2003, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: da BaSsTaRd on Pioneering the AMD (A Trip Down Memory Lane)

It's because of your original information way back when, that I opted to build my own system using the AMD Athlon 900MHz/KT133 chipset/768MB PC-133SDram. The system worked great with PTF, once I got rid of that damned SBLive card. Now I'm up to the ASUS A7V266/1024MB DDR PC2100Ram/ Athlon XP2000 processor/M-Audio Audiophile 2496 soundcard. This system smokes through all my recording software(well, of course I use something more than PTF)with the load meters barely reflecting a load...and that's with 24 tracks running. So, KUDOS to you guys for pointing us away from that Intel crap and to the stuff that REALLY works for audio recording.
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Old 02-14-2003, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: da BaSsTaRd on Pioneering the AMD (A Trip Down Memory Lane)

I started using the duck ever since Charles Dye (yes, the Charles Dye) introduce me to it about 3 months ago.

I can now relate to the frase ----The DUC made me loose my job--- I find myself online using the DUC at least 2 hours a day when I'm at work. What a drag is to waste the other 6...

Some of you guys are definetely Aliens from other planets. I keep finding the same 10 or 20 names on every forum!!!! You guys write music, give advice, experiment with hardware and software, work days jobs and on top of that have the time to make not one kid but triplets !!!!
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Old 02-14-2003, 07:16 AM
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you know, allen, i bought that board for 4 reasons:
1) toms hardware was giving the new AMDs great reviews
2) someone at digi (i think kenn legault) reported good testing with the AMD761 (i think it was a A7M266)
3) i was being egged on by a friend to try it out
4) i ordered the A7M266, but they were out of stock for over a month because of a recall, so i got fed up and went with the GA-7DX, which was in stock

looking back, i'm glad i bought it - its been a super performer. but, i'll never again buy on the "bleeding edge". that sucker put me back quite a few beans...
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Old 02-14-2003, 09:41 AM
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That was a lot of fun back then, at least for a few of us. Some got their systems up and running fine, while others crashed and burned. There was actually quite a bit of contradictory information. Although the Athlon is now well accepted, it almost seemed shocking if somebody posted that they got an Athlon to work with the Digi back in 2000. I made a "history" post back in July 2001 that showed some of the earliest posts using an Athlon and the KT133 chipset. Here

The KT133 chipset seemed to "kinda" work with the athlon, but the KT133a looked to be much more reliable. Then just as the KT133a chipset was released, the AMD 761 chipset with the 133 FSB and DDR memory was introduced. This also turned out to be a real fast performer, leaving the Intel platform in the dust. Ken Legault from Digi posted he had success with the AMD 761 chipset and the Athlon in Feb of 2001. From there the Athlons really began to take off, even though Digi declined to support Athlons until July. It was basically the low cost and high performance that generated so much initial excitement. It seems odd that the AMD761 chipset never has made it to the "supported" list, but at least the KT133a chipset did on 14 July 2001.
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