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Pro Tools R.I.P.
I'm not joking. If you had ever visited Finland, you would know we're no good at it; except Ismo Leikola who is making a standup tour in the states, currently.
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Whether or not that is the case has to bee seen. Quote:
Subscription or Support plan as a straitjacket! Piece by piece implementation over time to force users to subscribe? Freedom doesn't mean companies can use their dominance to dictate the rules......but look around, *sigh*... Concerning the R.I.P: I remember a time when many DUC users (Shan, Russ,...) showed up "for some reasons" in the Reaper forum....but they stayed on PT, myself included. So lets see what will happen... And if some say Avid will announce their HD policy...I wonder what is so difficult that they haven't done this... So, lets cut the speculations and guesswork. my2c
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1. If I don't buy a $599 support plan for my PT11HD license by the end of 2015 my license becomes non-upgradeable. That's a big change. 2. There is no announced way to ever get this expired license back on a plan without buying a complete hardware/software system 3. Although they say "flexible licensing" is coming they can't tell me what it is or what it will cost. Three pretty big things they dumped in my lap (17 years as a PTHD owner) with only the vague timeline of "we will tell you the rest before the end of the year". And now they even release PT12HD and still can't tell me! Truly - I do find this all to be significant changes and quite annoying.
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Re: Pro Tools R.I.P.
We still don't really know whether there is any truth in your post, because Avid has not announced the new HD policy
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Truly not trying to be argumentative but to the best of my understanding what I stated IS the current policy - if not please tell me where my errors are
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I know I don't count because I'm just a humble vanilla user, but the new support model is very similar in my view to other professional software like CAD and engineering software for example. The thing is that if you run a large CNC machine shop you can pay for the high priced CAD software and the upkeep on the license because it is a valuable asset that basically pays for itself. However if you're a one man machine shop you have to find other options because the added capabilities of high end software just wont pay. Avid has either overlooked or ignored the fact that HD is being used in places that want and maybe need the tools it provides but are not the equivalent of a large CNC shop.
The fact that they want people to hold their breath and jump head first into this deal without knowing where they will land is crazy. |
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Q: If my Pro Tools | HD Software upgrade/support plan expires and I want to upgrade later on, what are my options? A: Pro Tools | HD Software customers will have the option to get on an upgrade/support plan through the end of 2015. Before that period ends we will release new flexible licensing options for Pro Tools | HD Software.' UNCLE !!! I give up thinking I know anything about what they are doing because much as i read and try to keep up - the rules are changing. I am now firmly with you JFreak! We really don't know anything past $599/yr to stay on a support plan.
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Perhaps, but meanwhile AVID freaks us HD users out by releasing a complete ******** 'upgrade' together with one initial option: paying 642 euro's every year again or your current license will become freezed after 31-12-2015 and you can never upgrade it again. This is insane marketing, or brilliant marketing when a companies goal is 'upsetting loyal customers and push them away as hard as possible'
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I hate to tell you but (AFAIK) - all written info of the "frozen license" has been deleted from AVID site ...
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I am one of many that is not going to use PT in the future unless I am interfacing with another PT based studio that needs to receive my work. For me, I couldn't care any less about new features, the numeral uno top gun important feature for me is STABILITY. and thats what I DON'T have using PT on a 3rd party interface. I am ok with expense but again, if I am going to buy a subscription and/or upgrades, it better work with my hardware. This software made my decision very easy. It will not work, so I will not purchase.
Kind of hillarious to note that about 4 months ago, I purchased Presonus Studio 1 pro. Does everything straight out of the box! The software has absolutely no issues changing sample rates / bit depth / buffers. I mean, thats the way it SHOULD work.. recently, I have been exporting PT projects into Presonus. PT just cant cope with life as we know it. I have to launch it 2 to 3 times to package some wave files for good export.. Once I jump thru those PT hurdles, Presonus grabs the tracks and runs perfectly smooth without any errors. -- Right now, my software decision can be made FASTER than my protools audio latency! takes me about 3 ms to decide what to do about PT.
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