Carbon with 500 rack- bypassing the preamps / connectivity

[darkwavo]

Originally Posted by Kyle Splittgerber

Sure thing. Bypassing line input gain improves performance. See highlighted numbers in the attached.

Great!
Makes sense to hook it up to the DB25 and have all options at hand.

Nice design feature too (true bypass) for line inputs.

Cheers.

[chrisdee]

Originally Posted by Kyle Splittgerber

Yes, it can function that way (just like with any interface in Pro Tools).

So if am recording my vocal chain (mic-> pre -> comp) connected to one of the Carbon line inputs (for example line input 1) i can also route that signal to one of the outputs and send this to my external headphone amp?

Also wonder if my Omni has true bypass on the line inputs?

[K Roche]

Originally Posted by darkwavo

Great!
Makes sense to hook it up to the DB25 and have all options at hand.

Nice design feature too (true bypass) for line inputs.

Cheers.

Yes I run two outboard FX units one Reverb and one Compressor and they are connected via the DB 25 connections and bypass the gain on the line inputs .That way for example the gain on the comp is controlled completely by the gain knob on the front panel of the compressor.

Another nice feature is that combi XLR-1/4" connectors automatically override the DB 25s so for example you could have an analog Comp, Reverb and EQ connected to the DB 25's (on say channels 3-8 ) But If you plugged in 4 mics into the Combi connectors on channels 1-4 they would automatically override the number 3 and 4 channels on the DB 25's, so you would not have to physically disconnect anything on the DB's

[darkwavo]

Originally Posted by K Roche

Yes I run two outboard FX units one Reverb and one Compressor and they are connected via the DB 25 connections and bypass the gain on the line inputs .That way for example the gain on the comp is controlled completely by the gain knob on the front panel of the compressor.

Another nice feature is that combi XLR-1/4" connectors automatically override the DB 25s so for example you could have an analog Comp, Reverb and EQ connected to the DB 25's (on say channels 3-8 ) But If you plugged in 4 mics into the Combi connectors on channels 1-4 they would automatically override the number 3 and 4 channels on the DB 25's, so you would not have to physically disconnect anything on the DB's

Interesting . Super cool feature!

[chrisdee]

Originally Posted by chrisdee

So if am recording my vocal chain (mic-> pre -> comp) connected to one of the Carbon line inputs (for example line input 1) i can also route that signal to one of the outputs and send this to my external headphone amp?

Also wonder if my Omni has true bypass on the line inputs?

What about MTRX Studio. Does it have true bypass on line inputs?

[scremedy]

Originally Posted by darkwavo

Great, thank you Kyle.

What is the advantage of bypassing the gain on the line inputs ?
It that a cleaner line in to the converter section ?

And good news on the I/O delay compensation. I use the outs and ins all the time typically to create hardware efx sends/returns , parallel process , etc.

Thanks again !

Hi Kyle - I love the Carbon, it's an beautiful and intuitive piece of tech. I'm looking at 500series to add to the carbon. I see that 500 series chassis come in DB25 and ADAT I/O flavors. All things considered, is there any advantage for either?

Thanks
Scott Compton / Berkeley

[K Roche]

Originally Posted by scremedy

Hi Kyle - I love the Carbon, it's an beautiful and intuitive piece of tech. I'm looking at 500series to add to the carbon. I see that 500 series chassis come in DB25 and ADAT I/O flavors. All things considered, is there any advantage for either?

Thanks
Scott Compton / Berkeley

Basically the advantage to ADAT is they are in addition to the 8 channels on the Carbon itself . So either 8 or 16 additional channels (depending on the sample rate you use) so if you need more than 8 simultaneous inputs ADAT would be the way to go.

The DB 25 allows you to have up to 8 additional analog connections = 8 on the DB25 and the 8 physical inputs on the carbon BUT you can only use any combination of 8 total at one time (as there are only 8 converters in the Carbon).... So what I typically do is use 3 Carbon mic pre inputs, and 4 DB25 I/O's for external Hardware FX

[XJENSEN]

It all really comes down to the conversion quality of the particular ADAT converter at the 500 chassis side.

[scremedy]

Originally Posted by XJENSEN

It all really comes down to the conversion quality of the particular ADAT converter at the 500 chassis side.

Thanks XJensen, agree that is very true.

[scremedy]

Originally Posted by K Roche

Basically the advantage to ADAT is they are in addition to the 8 channels on the Carbon itself . So either 8 or 16 additional channels (depending on the sample rate you use) so if you need more than 8 simultaneous inputs ADAT would be the way to go.

The DB 25 allows you to have up to 8 additional analog connections = 8 on the DB25 and the 8 physical inputs on the carbon BUT you can only use any combination of 8 total at one time (as there are only 8 converters in the Carbon).... So what I typically do is use 3 Carbon mic pre inputs, and 4 DB25 I/O's for external Hardware FX

Thank you Kev for that scenario. Very helpful.
Scott