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Re: Apple Studio/Mini - What bits we need
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Thanks a lot! I ordered the Native and a couple of docks for the SSDs and HDDs. |
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Thanks for the info, Eric! |
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I'm thinking after reading that article that the Echo Dual NVMe Thunderbolt Dock is what I'm going to go with. I have 1 NVME drive that needs a home. For vision I went with the BlackMagic Mini Monitor 3G as it has a TB port and it's cheap. I also have a brand new BlacMagic Mini Monitor PCIe card that I will try and sell with the Cheesegrater. As for my 1001 SATA & SSD disks floating around in the studio I was thinking of the Startech 4-Bay Hard Drive Docking Station for 2.5”/3.5” SSDs and HDDs I'm also running Native. Something to note. The studio I've been at for the last 5 weeks have been having MASSIVE issues with thye OWC PCIe cards with RAID so personally I'm going to avoid both RAID and OWC. OWC is a good one to avoid cause they are so expensive.
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I have a more controversial opinion on RAID. It's entirely unnecessary for 90% of users. The speed issues it was designed for no longer exist. And mirroring is no replacement for backup. The only config that makes sense is 10 (1+0) which provides speed and maintains downtime protection say in the middle of a film mix. But then you're at an economic loss using up 4 drives. And for the most part reputable SSD's aren't going to crap out like an overworked spinner. So for me it only makes sense for facilities needing that security with IT to handle it. Some of the OWC products rely on SoftRAID which I'm not a fan of either. Some heavy orchestral VI users swear by RAID. In my experience it speeds up initial load time but I'm not a heavy user.
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That's odd. We've had about 5 of these in various studios and none had a fan that we could hear. We're using SSD drives though and there's not much heat -- maybe platter drives, which could get hotter, would force the fans to run. In any case, no, we've never had anything like a fan issue.
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We have the exact model mentioned, purchased multiple times across several years, and none are what I'd call noisy. We can hear it if we get close, but we're only that close temporarily, to access the computer for a hard restart. If I were to receive a noisy one today I'd send it back. They have a good return policy.
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ALso, I ordered the Sonnet Dual NVME TB Dock
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Re-Recording Mixer/Sound Designer Sydney Australia ---------------------------------------- OS Monterey ProTools Ultimate 2022.4 Presonus Quantum 4848 Mac Studio M1 10 Core, 64gig RAM Sonnet Echo dual NVMe TB Dock Blackmagic Decklink 3G |
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A reminder, as I've posted about on DUC before, that the Echo Dual NVMe Thunderbolt is a simple/dumb enclosure that takes the 4 x PCIE 3 lanes from Thunderbolt and routes two pairs of the lanes to each NVMe M.2 slot
Meaning that each M.2 card can at most can only get up to get half the maximum bandwidth available on a Thunderbolt 3 connection--even if the M.2 card in the other M.2 slot is idle, or not even installed. You can stripe the M.2 drives togetehr with software RAID and hope to regain much of that bandwidth, but I'm no fan of RAID, for reasons others point out above and more. But at least the Sonnet box has a cooling fan, and the cooling is supposed to be pretty well designed. I've not played with one. The way to do this "properly" if you want maximum performance and flexibility is to use an enclosure with a PCIe switch, unfortunately they don't exist, at least today, not with just M.2 slots--but you can "build your own" with a Thunderbolt PCIe expansion chassis. Like say a Sonnet Express SE III with up to three PCIe to M.2 slot adapter installed in it. At the other extreme single M.2 card to Thunderbolt enclosures give lots of Thunderbolt connection bandwidth, but lack forced cooling, etc. and the cabling and reliability all potentially have issues if you have a rats nest of connections there. I hope vendors start better designing M.2 storage enclosure for Studio class machines with lots of Thunderbolt busses, I could think of some very nice designs and capabilities. |
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Is anyone really using that much bandwidth in-session? I'm fully onboard with having as much as feasibly possible, and some to spare for peace-of-mind, but within reason of practicality. Some of these numbers make me think that people are looking to edit 8K video.
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