Commit always consolidating clips?

[bing181]

Trying to get my head around Commit.

Have some tracks with separate clips, but when I Commit, the resulting .cm track is always consolidated - even with "Consolidate Clips" disabled (not selected). Same whether I Commit an Edit Selection or whole track.

???

Thanks in advance.

[DetroitT]

Since 12.5 not in 12.4?
Mac / PC

[bing181]

Ah … I'll answer my own question. I'd delete the post, but can't see how to do it … mods?

Anyway, it's because of the -144 dBFS noise floor. It seems that there are any number of plugins that have low level noise going on in the background, and I seem to use at least one of them on every track (e.g., Saturation plugin, Slate VMR or VTM etc.). These are enough to trigger the audio detection algorithm in Commit.

Any chance of a user-selected threshold, or a work around? Useless for me as it is.

[Drew Mazurek]

Originally Posted by bing181

Ah … I'll answer my own question. I'd delete the post, but can't see how to do it … mods?

simply click edit post.

As for Commit, simply use "selection" rather than selected tracks.

[bing181]

Originally Posted by Drew Mazurek

As for Commit, simply use "selection" rather than selected tracks.

If you mean "Edit Selection" as opposed to "Selected Tracks", it makes no difference to the result described above. I'm always getting consolidated clips - because of the plugins and the -144 threshold it seems.

Unless of course I do it clip by clip ... which isn't an option.

[Drew Mazurek]

Originally Posted by bing181

because of the plugins and the -144 threshold it seems.

got it. yes, dither, analog modeling, verb tails all have content down there.

[bing181]

Originally Posted by Drew Mazurek

got it. yes, dither, analog modeling, verb tails all have content down there.

Which makes Commit useless in many cases - or almost all of mine.

[ronwasserman]

Originally Posted by bing181

Ah … I'll answer my own question. I'd delete the post, but can't see how to do it … mods?

Anyway, it's because of the -144 dBFS noise floor. It seems that there are any number of plugins that have low level noise going on in the background, and I seem to use at least one of them on every track (e.g., Saturation plugin, Slate VMR or VTM etc.). These are enough to trigger the audio detection algorithm in Commit.

Any chance of a user-selected threshold, or a work around? Useless for me as it is.

What happens if you use a gate?

[Enda_Gallen]

Originally Posted by ronwasserman

What happens if you use a gate?

I was just having this same issue with the commit feature this morning, I believe due to dither.

I threw on a gate with some very unobtrusive settings and it fixed the problem perfectly!

Perhaps a simple gate checkbox is something that could be added as an option to the commit dialogue, to increase its effectiveness?

[bing181]

Originally Posted by Enda_Gallen

Perhaps a simple gate checkbox is something that could be added as an option to the commit dialogue, to increase its effectiveness?

Something needs to be added to increase its effectiveness.