ACCEL and Auto delay compensation?

[Chris Lambrechts]

just stopping by to say hi to my fellow timeadjuster users.

[tvent]

Just checking in for the night.
You know, I think I am starting to get used to the fast.
My mixes sure do sound bad without any delay compensation though.
Bass? What Bass? That airy sound is pretty cool though (gets old after about a week though )

[Dave Lang]

What the hell - bump.......

[earjamm]

You Guyz sound like a bunch of little girls! I read this thread looking for something insightful, and what do I find? Shut up and get back to work! Some of us that have been using this system for a long time have seen this before. We don't have any idea what might be holding up the solution . I'm sure It will be announced as soon as it is ready, or would you rather beat them into releasing something prematurely. I think most of us have seen that before too, and that is worse than waiting. I use manual delay comp everyday. It takes only a few more seconds, and I'm sure that I am still way ahead of anybody using one of the other named systems. If you don't agree, sell your rig and buy something else. This is still the most amazing way to work on music. I've been deep in P.T. for years now and I am still blown away by the capibilities. This forum is for serious engineers dealing with serious issues. The DUC itself is the coolest way to educate yourself at any level. I value it tremendously. The Irony is that your driving the cadilac, and using the cadilac forum to bash the makers of the cadilac. Shut up and drive!

[THETHRILLFACTOR]

You Guyz sound like a bunch of little girls! I read this thread looking for something insightful, and what do I find? Shut up and get back to work!

Wow!!!

Well this is one of the things that make forumns great, its open to different opinions.

First of all its cool that you disagree and that the way you work is fine with you. For a lot us its not. Sure we can copy and shift tracks, but there comes a point where it becomes ridiculous(especially when you add one little plug to a mult). I and I am sure my fellow fasters here feel the same. We use it in a professional enviroment and we would just like to hear if this issue is being addresed and when. If not, i rather just hear that and I promise you I will move on.

But that's part of the problem, no response from the powers that be.

A year ago there was a post about this issue and the assurance that it would be addressed. Well its been a year and nothing. Instead with every revision of PT we get little fixes that don't even begin todeal with the issue.

This issue is not new.

We've been asking about it for years.

If you don't feel its that important then that's your choice.

When you see the post and topic, skip it.

Because it will not go away, we will not go away, until its dealt with(we are up to almost 3200 views, so i am sure this is an issue to a lot of people).

P.S. Try a little fiber in your diet. It will probably make you less grouchy!!
(Just kidding!!)

[earjamm]

O.K. I'll give you that I may have been a little harsh! I would also love to see AutoDlaComp, and I know it would make life easier. I don't mean to belittle your need. My issue is with the constant whining that I run into on the DUC. I guess over the years I've grown to realize that if you don't hear from Digi on an issue, it is for a reason. I believe they have known for a long time how important is is to the users, and I don't believe they don't care, I just imagine they're still wrestling with it. Can you imagine the can of worms opened if one of the DigiEng. Opens his mouth prematurely with the wrong info, Then everyone gets angry. I love the DUC. I love good debate. I have gained imeasurable knowledge from it. I Appreciate everybody that takes the time to share there experience, but sometimes I get so fed up with what comes off as anti-Digi rhetoric, and the constant harping on what seems sometimes to be small in the big picture of Pro Tools. ProTools has made me a good living and a huge boost in my career. I hope you can understand the spirit from which this view comes!

[Dave Lang]

Consider the Digi engineer who knows that ADC is needed, but has to fight with others in the organization to make it a priority.

That's what this thread is all about, visibility.

Did we really need another compressor/limiter? No, we did not. Someone decided to code it instead of coding ADC.

That's what this thread is all about.

ymmv

dave

[RobMacki]

You Guyz sound like a bunch of little girls! I read this thread looking for something insightful, and what do I find? Shut up and get back to work!


O.K. I'll give you that I may have been a little harsh! I would also love to see AutoDlaComp, and I know it would make life easier. I don't mean to belittle your need. My issue is with the constant whining that I run into on the DUC.

Thank you for your apology and justification.

I think most of us have seen that before too, and that is worse than waiting.

Who are you speaking for?

My issue is with the constant whining that I run into on the DUC.

So you registered in 2000 but only have 10 posts. Why then, haven’t you contributed to the the positive aspects of the DUC? It seems you would rather jump in throwing down your gavel.

I get so fed up with what comes off as anti-Digi rhetoric,

As you must know, most of the Digi bashers are gone. Some even ex-communicated from DUC. This place is tame compared to some forums who won’t even blink before bashing you if they think you use “Alsihad”.

I also know that Digi has narrow guidelines about replying to posts and responding to issues especially if it relates to development issues.
Maybe there will be an announcement at AES maybe NAMM. If they are working on it they will announce it when they have a definite yes. It also is a little surprising that they haven’t said anything, at all, on this thread.

But If you want to see more positive posts on the DUC, by all means, lead the way!

[THETHRILLFACTOR]

O.K. I'll give you that I may have been a little harsh! I would also love to see AutoDlaComp, and I know it would make life easier. I don't mean to belittle your need. My issue is with the constant whining that I run into on the DUC. I guess over the years I've grown to realize that if you don't hear from Digi on an issue, it is for a reason. I believe they have known for a long time how important is is to the users, and I don't believe they don't care, I just imagine they're still wrestling with it. Can you imagine the can of worms opened if one of the DigiEng. Opens his mouth prematurely with the wrong info, Then everyone gets angry. I love the DUC. I love good debate. I have gained imeasurable knowledge from it. I Appreciate everybody that takes the time to share there experience, but sometimes I get so fed up with what comes off as anti-Digi rhetoric, and the constant harping on what seems sometimes to be small in the big picture of Pro Tools. ProTools has made me a good living and a huge boost in my career. I hope you can understand the spirit from which this view comes!

Hi Earjamm,

Its fine. I think all of us are on the same side on this issue. The honest truth is that all of us would rather be posting on other issues or even better, making music. I think the problem is that in lots of ways this is one of the last frontiers for Digi to hurdle and there has been no response or acknwoledgement from them about it. For a lot of us who mix in PT, this is a very important issue. It kills the flow when mixing and gives more credence towards people who feel that mixing in PT is not a professional situation.

Now I am sure everyone is thinking who cares what other people think? Well it becomes a problem when in your heart, this is one issue you know that they are right about.

In the end, I do hope there is a solid reason why they haven't responded(i really want to give Digi the benefit of the doubt). But it bugs me that they respond right away on certain issues and this one its

Anyway, you are welcome to continue posting your views. If you or anybody feels we are whining or getting out of line, the opinion is welcome(hey we don't want to come across as a bunch of crying babies).

Especially if we want the powers that be to respond.

Ok guys, the fast continues.

[earjamm]

Thrillfactor, Thank you for understanding my position. I know what you mean about the users of other systems, but I have seen some of those guys work and they're are pipe dreaming if they think they have anything on us.

Also , to address Rob for a minute, Over the years I have heard claims made on the floor of a trade show, or at a Demonstration, that some of us relied on only find out later it was'nt true.
My guess is Digi seniors have passed down the word to the Techs and Reps to be more careful about what they say reguarding future releases.

When I signed on tonight I went to see who was on before I came here. There was at that very moment a Digi Eng. reading this thread. But If he replied, What would he say. " We hear you guys but we don't know what to say" He would immediatly be bombarded with questions he can't answer. What a can of worms he would be opening. I know they know how impotant this issue is, And I'm sure They would love to announce it in the face of the competitors.

I figure one of two things. Either they have it but the want to wait until AES, or they are still struggling with implimenting it into the TDM structure. I don't think they are ignoring us!

As for my lack of posts, I search and read and almost always find my topic has been asked and answered. I never saw my lack of posts as not contributing until now!

I mix directly in ProTools as well. I don't even have a control surface. I've gotten very used to moving regions to compensate for the Dly. I would enjoy the feature, but honestly I've never seen it as this big of a deal. I just move stuff and move on. It is such a far cry from dumping from analog tape to a sampler and triggering back to analog in the pocket. Now that was time consuming