pitch change

[Kemo3ce]

in the old recorders we could change the speed of everything which would make the audio transpose to a different key, can you do that in pro tools? change the whole thing to record a vocal then change it back once they are now able to reach the key??

[cwsand]

Yes, check out the Reference Manual section about the Elastic Audio Vari-Speed option. Works just like changing the speed of a tape machine.

[Bushpig]

Kemo,

Varispeed is what you're talking about, and yes you can in PT, but only with a Sync I/O, which means you have to have a card based system. Raw vanilla PT without card hardware, it's not possible.

I use it ALL the time for this sort of thing. But then I'm an old timer and used to work this way with the tape machines too (help the singer hit the high note in the chorus. Do the ridiculously high and low Bohemian Rhapsody BV stacks ).

Hope that helps.

Steve Bush
www.music180.com/pros/5887

2 x Systems: MacPro 4.1 (Nehalem) 2.26 8 Core, OSX 10.6.8, PT10.2HD, 14 Gig RAM, PCIe HD3, 192's, Sync I/O, Midi I/O.

[Bushpig]

Kemo,

Just remembered, you CAN do half speed recording (not the same as varispeed exactly, but could be useful to you). Check it out in the manual.

CW. The only time I've ever engaged the Elastic varispeed, it's made absolutely no sense to me, except possibly for special FX use. But I'm intrigued now wondering if you're right though. Have you used it to pitch a whole track down (for example) to record the high part over? Is that really how it could be used? Surely that would mean turning every active track in the whole session into Elastic, which is often not very practical in my sessions. Be brilliant if this is how it could work though, coz I'd have definitely missed a trick there.

Cheers all.

Steve Bush
www.music180.com/pros/5887

2 x Systems: MacPro 4.1 (Nehalem) 2.26 8 Core, OSX 10.6.8, PT10.2HD, 14 Gig RAM, PCIe HD3, 192's, Sync I/O, Midi I/O.

[TOM@METRO]

You can alter pitch of your music with plug-ins like Serato "Pitch 'n Time". There are subtle artifacts involved though.

[cwsand]

Originally Posted by Bushpig

Kemo,

Just remembered, you CAN do half speed recording (not the same as varispeed exactly, but could be useful to you). Check it out in the manual.

CW. The only time I've ever engaged the Elastic varispeed, it's made absolutely no sense to me, except possibly for special FX use. But I'm intrigued now wondering if you're right though. Have you used it to pitch a whole track down (for example) to record the high part over? Is that really how it could be used? Surely that would mean turning every active track in the whole session into Elastic, which is often not very practical in my sessions. Be brilliant if this is how it could work though, coz I'd have definitely missed a trick there.

Cheers all.

Steve Bush
www.music180.com/pros/5887

2 x Systems: MacPro 4.1 (Nehalem) 2.26 8 Core, OSX 10.6.8, PT10.2HD, 14 Gig RAM, PCIe HD3, 192's, Sync I/O, Midi I/O.

Hi Steve,
I played with it for one song and it was a bit of a pain to Vari-Speed each track. If I did it again, I'd probably use another session with just a stereo rough mix track as a guide. Then when the Vari-Speed tracks are done, import them into the original session.

The biggest complaint I have about Vari-Speed, is that it's all tempo based, that is, by changing the tempo of the session, the tracks' speed and pitch change. So you have to do a bit of math to figure out what tempo to use to change the pitch up or down however many steps.

Not sure about having to use a Sync I/O as the session I used Vari-Speed in was on a pc using non-HD Pro Tools. I assumed you could do the same thing though on a Mac non-HD Pro Tools system - I'll have to try and let you know.

[Kemo3ce]

ok yea i used the varispeed worked like a charm, had to change all tracks to ticks and add them to varispeed instead of the other settings worked perfect though.. thanks guys