Is there a better support option than this forum?

[bigsixx]

yeah some people do trip on here because the ? is something so easy to them......but most of these people have been to training for this stuff and its easy for them but if you have no clue what you are doing then its not easey and people frown on that for some reaseon .....i thought a forum was to help not talk down people. not everyone has the privelage to get to go to school for this and alot of the questions are minor ones so whats the big deal?????

[filosofem]

i thought a forum was to help not talk down people.

Yes your right bigsixx, it's about respect and giving recognition to those privileged individuals, whether through a Institute or the hard school of knocks. How can you slam the very people you seek help from? These privileged individuals don't have to share their knowledge nor opinions with this forum ...they choose to. Remember that. I received a email this morning from Robert Martin the software developer for Cherry Picker, offering his services, quite a surprise I might add, point being, he's not obligated to help, he choose to. This forum is very helpful and has helped myself on a number of occasions, the short time I've been here. Now do you really think that if I slammed those members, demanding instant results, I'd receive the very assistance I require? No!







filosofem

[Big Saccs]

well since there's a conversation about not getting the help they are seeking or PT pro's looking down on or not responding..... http://duc.digidesign.com/showflat.p...part=1#1006097 I see the thread was viewed 62 times with 2 partial replys...can I get some advice here...Thanks.

[bigsixx]

well since its hit you that hard then you must be one of the fools who like to talk down on people.....or am i wrong i mean .... ive seen people get all worked up over nothing .....this forum is for help you are right.... and no no one has to do anything.....but dont belittle someon e for trying to get help, if you are gonna help then cool do it you are a great person for doing so.... but if you are not gonna help and talk down to someone dont say anything no one wants to hear people talk ***** just cause you know something real well and another person doesnt. if youre gonna help do it if NOT shut the $%^& up and go do something else. im here to get help and help when i can not to make fun of someone just casue they dont know where to find the mixer or cant seem to figure out how to set the midi in pt.

[filosofem]

bigsixx

Then lets put it another way... "Hi I'm new to this forum, I posed a question a while ago and I didn't get the instant results I expected, this forum sucks, oh by the way, could you help me fine a better one".

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filosofem

[comprodman]

well since its hit you that hard then you must be one of the fools who like to talk down on people.....or am i wrong i mean .... ive seen people get all worked up over nothing .....this forum is for help you are right.... and no no one has to do anything.....but dont belittle someon e for trying to get help, if you are gonna help then cool do it you are a great person for doing so.... but if you are not gonna help and talk down to someone dont say anything no one wants to hear people talk ***** just cause you know something real well and another person doesnt. if youre gonna help do it if NOT shut the $%^& up and go do something else. im here to get help and help when i can not to make fun of someone just casue they dont know where to find the mixer or cant seem to figure out how to set the midi in pt.

Sorry but at the end of the day, YOU are asking for the help....
Now I was taught that Manners make the Man, maybe that is only in England? Telling people to SHUT the **** up isn't very nice, also you say its for a sermon? I am sure Christ would have spoken like that to people! What an advocate for the Church you are , thank you from a fellow Christian .

So you didn't get answers you were looking for first time?

Then ask again but rephrase the question, it isn't rocket science is it?

I have a question about compression could someone please help?

I want to make my voice sound as big as possible how could I achieve that effect?

Well a bit of 5:1 with a hard knee and fast release and a makeup gain of +6db (play about but those should help you), also having a master track and using maxxim track master should help you

[accession]

Shawn Simpson writes in response to tdellaringa's query:
"It's most likely the lack of compression on your sermon. A compressor will reduce the dynamic range (the difference in the peaks and valleys) and give you a more consistent level throughout. It takes some time to get the hang of doing it right so that the level is good and hot with minimum compression artifacts, but that's what you're going to need".

It may be worth an hour of engineering time to hire somebody to come in and setup some presets that you can use to get your levels rocking with the pre-fab elements."

tdellaringa replies in response to Shawn's detailed response:
"The answer I got here was "hire someone to help you."

The forum's fine, as it's been for the five years or so I've been on it.

Your question was answered. You need to compress your mix. So put a compressor on the track, pull down the threshold, lift the gain, and voila. Adjust the ratio to taste.

If that doesn't make sense, please don't turn to blame those around you for not taking time from their busy lives to sit at a computer and carefully type a personalised response for you.

Search my posts. I aim to contribute, though I can't help you if you're unable to appreciate the answers that you do get (eg. Shawn's reply), or unable help yourself (eg. search forums, read manuals).

For everyone that does come to your aid, you should be appreciative.

Though this is coming from a non-Christian here, I am surprised by your Christian attutude. Just the other week I had a guy swearing at me that the company with whom I'm an agent for is "fricken" useless/hopeless/incompetent/etc 'cause they couldn't instantly reproduce a proof of purchase receipt (it'd take a couple of days) to replace the one he'd lost.

And he was an Anglican minister trying to set up a website.

I really wonder where some people's priorities are life. So much selfishness amongst the selflessness.

Anyway, the irony is in just how many posts this thread has received.

If you have any more questions, fire away, and if I'm online, see your query, and can contribute, I will.

[jlcnyc]

Telling people to SHUT the **** up isn't very nice, also you say its for a sermon? I am sure Christ would have spoken like that to people! What an advocate for the Church you are , thank you from a fellow Christian .

just keeping score here..
the original poster with the "sermon/compression" question was not the DUCer that said "shut the **** up"

ps I love the DUC. I've learned as much here as anywhere....but from time to time there are some "snarky" replys. I always chalk it up to people having a bad day. Compared to some forums I've seen, I'm impressed with the overall civility of the DUC.

[tdellaringa]

Then lets put it another way... "Hi I'm new to this forum, I posed a question a while ago and I didn't get the instant results I expected, this forum sucks, oh by the way, could you help me fine a better one".

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filosofem

Just for the record - this is not what I meant. My only intention was to ask if there were other support forums I could make use of. I think it's common sense to realize if you have 2 options instead of 1 option, then you are more likely to find out what you need.

I didn't expect instant results - but I did expect some kind of response. It is possible my question is too simplistic, which is why I asked for another resource.

Again, I'm more than thankful for the help I already have received. Please don't put words into my mouth.

Thanks.

[tdellaringa]

Shawn Simpson writes in response to tdellaringa's query:

Your question was answered. You need to compress your mix. So put a compressor on the track, pull down the threshold, lift the gain, and voila. Adjust the ratio to taste.

That is the kind of info I was looking for in my follow up. Frankly, I probably should have just posted a new thread asking for compression help.

If that doesn't make sense, please don't turn to blame those around you for not taking time from their busy lives to sit at a computer and carefully type a personalised response for you.

Well, I didn't. I think people have not really understood what I was asking, as I said. I'm not blaming anyone for not answering fast enough or to my liking. I was looking for alternatives, that is all.

Search my posts. I aim to contribute, though I can't help you if you're unable to appreciate the answers that you do get (eg. Shawn's reply), or unable help yourself (eg. search forums, read manuals).

As I've said numerous times, I do indeed appreciate the help I get. And I've been trying to help myself as well, reading the digidesign reference guide and searching online.

It's obvious that making this post was a mistake, people took it to mean something else than was intended. I probably should have realized that, but I was a bit frustrated at the dead end I had hit.

Though this is coming from a non-Christian here, I am surprised by your Christian attutude. Just the other week I had a guy swearing at me that the company with whom I'm an agent for is "fricken" useless/hopeless/incompetent/etc 'cause they couldn't instantly reproduce a proof of purchase receipt (it'd take a couple of days) to replace the one he'd lost.

What does this Anglican minister have to do with me? Am I guilty by association because of his attitude? Should I characterize you in a similar manner because you aren't a Christian based on how other non-Christians act? That would hardly be fair, would it?

And again, you are miscontruing what you perceive as my "Christian attitude". You are thinking I am unappreciative of the help I have already received, and you are mistaken. I can only say that so many times - you can believe me or not.

I really wonder where some people's priorities are life. So much selfishness amongst the selflessness.

If it came off as selfish, I apologize. Again, I shouldn't have posted this, I should have known this would cause hurt feelings.

If you have any more questions, fire away, and if I'm online, see your query, and can contribute, I will.

I appreciate the offer of help. I will probably make a separate post, if I still need to, after I soak in what others have said about compression here.

Thanks