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Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
Up front, I will confess I fear professional recording engineers and enthusiasts will hate this post. But I am a home hobbyist, so be mindful of that.
I have the Eleven Rack with expansion pack. I use Pro Tools LE 8.05 on a Win7 Home Premium PC, 32-bit. My computer is an Intel Core 2 Duo E6400, DC 2.13 GHz, 1066 MHz front side bus, Socket 775, Intel 945G Chipset, Asus Micro ATX Motherboard (Leonite-GL8e). I have 4gb RAM on mobo; C-drive: SATA 250gig 5400rpm; E-drive: SATA 250gig 5400rp; L-drive 7200rpm firewire 800 for recording. Separate graphics card with 2gig memory. I have made all of the recommended optimizations for Pro Tools LE 8.05 (or most). Most of my settings are defaults in Pro Tools. I adjust buffers as needed when recording vs mixing. I'm happy with PTLE 8. I may upgrade both my computer and PT someday, but right now LE is fine and money is tight. Given my satisfaction with LE and use of the 11R and firewire drive, what are some options for perhaps improving my LE performance on the cheap side? For example - will converting my C: drive to SSD make a difference? Get a "new" used PC or even a Mac (laptop or Mini)? New used pc, what is my most affordable option? What would you do, beyond saving for PT and computer complete upgrade? If this is totally ridiculous path, let me know. But, if I'm happy with LE, why not leverage the improved performance and lower cost of used technology for another 18-24 months? What am I trying to solve for? PT LE hangs sometimes after a track is printed; or some heavy editing; or switching back and forth from 11R setting; or using VSTi like Boom or Structure or Xpand. So I am assuming a little more horsepower will eliminate that inconvenience and workflow. |
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Re: Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
What is your CPU utilization when running a session with lots of tracks and plugins? I was using a Core2Duo e-4400 with LE up until a year or so ago with no problems. I would guess the problems with the VI's may be due to the speed of your C and E drives-only 5,400 rpms. With SSD prices really dropping, you may consider getting one for your operating system and sample libraries. I think many on the forum recommend Samsung 840 Pro SSD's.
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Re: Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
Now that you mention it, I have been getting messages that CPU use is high. Once, PT didn't freeze but I couldn't play back even if I adjusted buffers. I use mostly PT plugins with some Steven Slate console emulators and mix bus emulations. On the track I couldn't play back, it was only like 8 tracks, mix of midi and audio.
Are you good at reading Sandra reports? |
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Re: Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
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Yes, it would help if you replaced your C: drive with a faster HDD (7200 RPM) or a SSD. This will show improvement across the board, not just with Pro Tools. Beyond that, I think attempting to squeeze any more power out of what you have is a game of diminishing returns. Be mindful that the cost of computers is pretty low, all things considered... The "Silverbox" computer in my signature cost $950, not including the $200 in hard drive upgrades I performed after purchase.
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Re: Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
You are right I suppose. I didn't know if an old Mac mini or post-Core Duo PC would fit the bill.
I just rechecked my Sandra Report, all hard drives are 7200rpm already. I guess I'll make do until I'm ready for new pc and PT upgrade. When I do go new I was eyeballing the Sweetwater Creation Station series. Or going Mac. |
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Re: Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
I agree the best option is to sit tight until you can afford a complete overhaul upgrade otherwise you're wasting money IMHO.
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Re: Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
2 more cents With a socket 775, you could likely find a used quad core cpu for dirt money. That plus Win7 64 bit and doubling the RAM might give the old beast a bit more grunt. There are 2 issues to consider. 1-each newer version of PT seems to need more horsepower, and 2-NONE of your current plugins will work in PT11 unless they have AAX 64 bit versions available(which MOST do, but you may need to pay some to get these updated versions). After that, since you have a working setup now, I would remove your system drive and install a fresh drive, and load everything from scratch. Starting with a "clean slate" is the best way to do a major upgrade Good luck with whatever you decide to do
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Re: Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
Will my mobo CPU socket take a QC?
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Re: Cheapest Upgrade Path for Improved PT LE 8 Recording
Check with the mobo manufacturer website(we don't know what you have). Bear in mind it might also require a BIOS update(not a huge deal if you are going to reload Windows anyway).
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