001 dinosaur user here...CPU issues.

[rangeroad]

Howdy folks,

An ancient user here. My following set-up: G4 AGP 450mhz single w/ 384 RAM. I know...keep laughing. But I'm just getting back into recording again, and am having some issues since upgrading to 10.3.8 and PT 6.7. I seem to recall getting WAY more plug-ins and track stabilty back in my 5.1 days. Now I can only seem to get about 4 tracks w/ single plugs on each before I get the dreaded DAE error message, telling me to ditch my plugs... (and I only have 3 working!)

Any advice appreciated. I have done the obvious, bumped up CPU to 85% and buffer to 1024. I just can't seem to cross-ref anyone who has upgraded as far as me w/ such an old machine. I did find the following link, and am seriously considering upgrading my processor. As a side-topic, does anyone have a fave. of these upgrades?:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/accelerators/

Many thanks for your help.

[KingFish]

Yeah, if you want to use your current machine, you'll be better of doing an OS9 installation on another volume, and installing PT LE 5.x.x on the OS9 volume.

OS X 10.3.x / Pt LE 6.x is much more processor intensive, and requires a lot more Ram, you won't get very far with that configuration.

[Severe]

Ive heard good things about OWC, I think Im going that way.

Check this out, range, for all the reviews you need...Articles>CPU Upgrades.


Hope this is helpful.

[d@verm]

rangeroad
001?
pt6.7 is not compatible...'
6.4 was the last ver. for the 001...
this could be your issue..



dave

[rangeroad]

Hi-thanks for everyone's response...my mistake on the 6.7..(reading so many other posts) I have the 6.4cs6 update. After doing some searching in other Mac areas, I really think 10.3.8 is much of the "problem". It's a VERY processor heavy OS update, and I wouldn't reccomend it for any 001 users out there w/ an older machine.




<<"rangeroad
001?
pt6.7 is not compatible...'
6.4 was the last ver. for the 001..."
this could be your issue..



dave

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dave r
mac g4 os 10.3.3
bcf2000(hui emulation)
001 ver 6.4



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[sdelsolray]

I've stayed at OS 10.3.4 with PTLE 6.4 on an old G4 (with a 1 GHz SOnnet upgrade processor). I had gone further (10.3.7) and had problems. Reverted back to 10.3.4 and all is well. I still have OS 9 and PTLE 5.x on another HD.

[MartinC]

Another dino here-G4 350 , 001, 750 ram, 32 track beta, os 9.22 Also have os X and ptle 6 installed. Here's my beef. OS X runs a lot faster on my machine than os 9-the machine is just a lot quicker in X, except for PTLE. Granted the machine is not supported for ptle 6, but what's the point of upgrading if you don't get more performance? Oh yeah, more features! Like rewire. I'm about to upgrade, just not sure how. G4 dual 1.25 with dual boot, or the G5 & 002 rack. I'm trying to figure out why I should buy a G5 and not a , gulp, PC. The only reason to stay mac seems to be to run logic pro 7 and all those great free plugs. Meanwhile I still get 32 tracks and a bunch of plugs in os 9.

[Severe]

Another dino here-G4 350 , 001, 750 ram, 32 track beta, os 9.22 Also have os X and ptle 6 installed. Here's my beef. OS X runs a lot faster on my machine than os 9-the machine is just a lot quicker in X, except for PTLE. Granted the machine is not supported for ptle 6, but what's the point of upgrading if you don't get more performance? Oh yeah, more features! Like rewire. I'm about to upgrade, just not sure how. G4 dual 1.25 with dual boot, or the G5 & 002 rack. I'm trying to figure out why I should buy a G5 and not a , gulp, PC. The only reason to stay mac seems to be to run logic pro 7 and all those great free plugs. Meanwhile I still get 32 tracks and a bunch of plugs in os 9.

Hey Martin,

If I were you I would upgrade that G4 and stay in OS9 for now, maybe even OSX. Why buy another computer at this point. Imagine what a good CPU/RAM upgrade would do for you. Just wait for Digi's new 00"thing" to be released, maybe. It shouldnt be too long. Im still stuck at PT6.4 as well and dont feel any pressure. I stay in OS9 most of the time. When newer hardware is released, Ill probably bite and also buy a faster computer...G5? At that time Ill have a good backup G4 that I had just upgraded about a year prior and those G5's will be a lot cheaper.

I dont know man, if your still 44.1/24 why even let it bother you. Thats what this board will do to ya, lol. Your "upgrading" to what at this point? Software features? Maybe purchase a good AD/DA that you can keep for longer and some great hardware.


Hope this is helpful.

[MartinC]

I appreciate your perspective. It's kinda hard to upgrade a G4 350 with pci graphics, and it certainly isn't supported in os X ptle 6, but I hear you. Maybe I need to look into what , if anything, I can do with this cpu. My old computer still has enough juice to well, record! I would like rewire in PT, though, and I have an unistalled copy of logic pro 7-space desinger, all those synths, etc, so I'd like to do it at some point. I'm not sold on the digi 002 rack-it seems like people are not getting better performance than with the 001. I may just wait for the next native hardware from digi, and in the meantime maybe pickup a dual 1.25 g4 which can boot os 9.22- I agree about upgrade fever, just reading about new stuff makes you want it!

[dans]

But I'm just getting back into recording again

MartinC, I did some of my best writing/recording on a BWG3/350 with an 001 running OS 8.6. Reading these forums will certainly tempt you to buy, buy and buy more stuff. But you have the gear to "get back in" right now. Install an OS9 partition and get back into things. Then when you have maxed out your setup, consider upgrading. Until then, remember that it is about the music, not the gear. I bet you can get by without the army of soft synths, etc. for a while.

I'd recommend against the CPU upgrade, especially for a pre-AGP graphics G4 (which is essentially a G3 in every other respect). They just never played all that well with upgrades. Like i said, max out what you have, and then start saving for a real upgrade in the form of a new computer. And I agree with you about the 002 rack, from what I read here, I see virtually no advantage to it over my trusty 001 (running on a G4 1.25DP). Someday I'll get a G-whatever with a new 00-whatever, but I don't see it helping my recording just yet.