NuGen Audio's VisLM loudness meter

[Postman]

ATSC A85 loudness standard that is now law in US

It becomes a defacto law next year, and will not be enforced for a year after that. US congress essentially said that whatever ATSC recommends will be the law. That allows room for change. I am curous to see if the US will continue to have -24 LKFS/LUFS while the EU works with -23. That would be stupid, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[MIKEROPHONICS]

The US voltage difference to the UK has caused many probs over the pond, different frame rate headaches for you NTSC chaps (& chapesses) - be nice if we could agree on something

cheers

[Postman]

can it read files - or do you have to play your mix through?

AFAIK, it is realtime only.

[Postman]

be nice if we could agree on something

I think we just did!!

[s0und80y]

Originally Posted by Postman

It becomes a defacto law next year, and will not be enforced for a year after that. US congress essentially said that whatever ATSC recommends will be the law. That allows room for change. I am curous to see if the US will continue to have -24 LKFS/LUFS while the EU works with -23. That would be stupid, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Most specs are + or - 1 so it won't be a problem. as far as my ear goes -23 or -24 as barely noticeable

[kd_special]

Im not 100% sure but I've been told in Canada there is no Law or laws yet. I am not sure if there are any in the plans either.

Perhaps some other Canucks could chime in.

Every show I have done has a Spec sheet which looks like its a photocopy of a Spec sheet from the seventies. As it talks about Beta SP tapes and rarely has specs for 5.1 material. At least no specs audio wise. Its always kind of a gamble

kd

[tomlowd]

Originally Posted by MIKEROPHONICS

Hi Tom - dialnorm is dead. Sky specs will be LKFS -23 (new version about to be published soon) as per ploud's recommendation. So that will apply to Nat Geo in the UK too as they TX on that platform.

Yes I would trust them for a dolby E layback, just as I trust Neyrinck with his encode and decode. Good software is great!

cheers

thanks mike! i just did some reading and LKFS is in use in australia now too.... so, i'll give the v-meter a go! i really need something that can check files offline though. that's a very handy feature of the media meter

[ILOVEPROTOOLS]

Originally Posted by Postman

You should look into this one also:
http://www.vsonics.com/vmeters.php

I've seen an early version and it looks pretty good. Lots of flexibility, lots of meter types.

BTW, I don't think "dialog intelligence" is at all import anymore. It's day has past. Gating based on level, such as recommended in the EBU R128 document, IS important. Vmeters does not have it yet, nor do most others currently on the market, but the devoloper has indicated it is coming in an update. Vmeters seems to have 'most everything else. The version I saw matched LKFS readings exactly to my LM5D and LM100. I have not checked the latest version, though. I will soon.

ps, I haven't tried nugenaudio's, I just wanted to point out a new option

Thanks So much for this!!! I needed LKFS monitoring at home for cheap.. i was about to give in and get the DMM2. Woo Hoo!

Does anybody know if Disco changed their specs in regards to the DX intelligence and are going with LKFS? Or are planning to soon?

Oh and also I did want to say the DMM2 also has LEQ(m) for Movie trailers and is a breeze to use and I dont see that feature on either one of these meters. Unless i missed it.

[MIKEROPHONICS]

NUGEN are going to do offline file metering like the dmm2

[MIKEROPHONICS]

I just checked in with Jon at NuGen and to my chargrin, I hadn't noticed that there is an audiosuite version included as well - that can measure files instantaneously.

NuGen are also working on 1) new features 2) a batch processor & correction tool, which is in Beta - exciting times ahead for this plugin

The batch processor and correction tool will be on demo later in the month http://tech.ebu.ch/loudness11

cheers