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Old 06-21-2000, 01:27 PM
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Default Protools Certification?

I'll be a graduating senior in college and I"m activly looking for recording positions. While I understand that most "newbies" start out as assistants I would like to do anything I can to better my chances. I've been using Protools TDM for about 5 years and feel that I'm pretty good on it. But I would like to know for purposes of poping it on a resume..does digidesign (or avid) offer any sort of protools certification classes? If so where might I get some more info about those classes?

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Old 06-22-2000, 08:48 PM
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Check out The Conservatory of Recording Arts
and Sciences.They are the only Avid certified
school to teach Pro Tools.
Good school.
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Old 06-22-2000, 11:53 PM
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There are also other Avid Authorized Pro Tools Training Centers: http://www.avid.com/education

Avid keeps this list, which is linked from the Definitions page in Support on the Digidesign web site.

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Old 06-23-2000, 05:59 AM
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Don't waste time or money on the schools. Go straight to the studios and find one where you think you can be useful. Then hang around helping them out wherever possible. You'll either get arrested or employed.
Its worked twice for me and I know for a fact that either of them didn't read my resume.
Engineering is more like a trade than an academic study. I'd take a 4th year apprentice over a Bachelor student anyday.
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Old 06-23-2000, 08:37 AM
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If you go to a Pro Tools school just remember that "those who can do, those who can't, teach". Learn what you can at a school, but be prepared to throw a lot of it out the window when you get a real job. There is no substitute for learning on the job. A certificate from an authorized Pro Tools school only shows that you are sincere about learning, not that you have any practical knowledge...sorry, but its true.
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Old 06-24-2000, 01:47 PM
Nick Batzdorf Nick Batzdorf is offline
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I do have a sense of humor, but...

First of all, Peter, that nonsense about teaching doesn't apply to any field related to the arts.

But mainly, why even spread that stupid line around? Arnold Schwartzenegger makes $650,000 a day; teachers might make that in 15 years. They're certainly not teaching to get rich, and the world does sorta need them.
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Old 06-24-2000, 09:48 PM
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Robbie,
It seems like you pretty much have the
pro tool system learned (5 years),But
pt is a small part of whats involved in
working in a recording facility.

If you feel the need, look for a accredited
school ( full sail,the conservatory,Ect..)
which will cover all the basic fundamentals
required in laying down a solid foundation
in becoming a good, hireble engineer...

Or you can go to the good`ole school of
hard knocks(the route i took) which builds
self-assurance and character, but at a
price (not$$)...

Not to many ways around the coffee pot.
Either way, dues will be paid...
Eric

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Old 06-25-2000, 11:03 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Nick Batzdorf:
I do have a sense of humor, but...

First of all, Peter, that nonsense about teaching doesn't apply to any field related to the arts.

But mainly, why even spread that stupid line around? Arnold Schwartzenegger makes $650,000 a day; teachers might make that in 15 years. They're certainly not teaching to get rich, and the world does sorta need them.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe you'll learn more practical info in 6 months sitting behind a great engineer then you will learn in a school). When I hire someone I look for real world experience.

Don't confuse the three R's with Audio.

Just my 25 years of experience speaking... just my opinion.


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Old 06-25-2000, 11:32 PM
Nick Batzdorf Nick Batzdorf is offline
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Peter, my rant was simply an emotional reaction. Most of us owe a lot to some inspiring teachers in our past, and I don't feel they deserve to be dissed en masse. (You've probably seen the bumper sticker with a couple of notes: if you can read this, thank a music teacher.)

Whether or not Robbie C would benefit from classes or certification is another matter. I personally think that classes are good for some people but unnecessary for others. People learn in different ways and feel more confident learning in different environments. We're all different. Besides, you can learn nuclear physics on your own too! An extreme example, but you get the point.

Certification certainly couldn't hurt anyone, and who knows - maybe he'd even find work through the class. But I don't know where you get your Pro Tool driver's licence.
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Old 06-25-2000, 11:38 PM
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And another thing: nobody ever said that certification is a substitute for an apprenticeship, which is what you're describing.
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