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Re: Windows XP Petition
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by oslpchris:
I don't see Digidesign making a $800 dollar 48 track studio that will take money away from their $2000 dollar professional version. (I don't even know what they charge for the full studio version I'm just making a guess). chris<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Try $10k!
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English Jim wrote:
“This XP nonsense is really becoming tiresome. Why would you think that XP is going to make such a difference to your PTLE set up - especially regarding stability. NT didn't come into its own until SP4, Win 2000 needed 2 service packs and is still a little iffy. Win 98 needed SE, ME is still (debatably) a marginal OS. It will be at least a year or two before XP is a viable OS for music production based on on Microsoft's track record. The OS is the least significant issue I deal with in regard to PT.” Jim, Jim what an ignorant statement!! Obviously you do not have a Pentium 4. Win2K / Win ME are a dog on a P4. These OS do not have code to take full advantage of the P4 technology. A PIII blows a P4 using any previous Windows version. You will notice the huge difference only when you move to Win XP. Most people buy XP because of all the bells & whistles. I moved to Win XP because of its stability. IT IS ROCK SOLID! It’s amazing that Microsoft finally puts out a stable and robust OS and people and the media are knocking it. This is what I call “Emotional Reviews” They hate MS, and can’t write an objective article. Let me just tell you about my eXPerience with WinXP. As a Network Administrator I had the final OEM version by Sept. 25 or so. I formatted my C: drive and went ahead and installed it without a glitch into my home built Asus P4T system (P5 1.5Ghz, 256MB Rambus, Nvidia g2 GTS, Yamaha CDRW 16X10X40, Pioneer DVD, Astra 3400 USB scanner, MS USB Sidewinder Force2, Sony CyberShot DSC-30 USB camera, PCI Firewire adapter (JVC DV camera attached to it) and Epson 880 USB printer) again, not a single problem. All drivers installed properly. Even my ISP, DirecPC told me that my satellite system will not work with XP and guess what?? It works flawlessly. Besides seeing a very noticeable performance boost, compared to ME / 2000, my PC has not crashed once since moving to XP. Bells and whistles are nice, but performance and stability is what counts baby! Anyone one in the market for a new PC should not settle for anything less that a P4. That problem is that as long Digi does not support XP, you won’t be taking full advantage of your PC. Unfortunately that is the case with my P4 Digi PC, I have a Ferrari, but it’s running on 4 donut spare tires. Add my vote for XP support as top priority. Marc |
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Like I said,
The problem is, digidesign has said they were working on (insert PTLE for PC feature here) and have not produced! I dont want to see this happen to PTLE for WinXP. It should be noted that any joe shmo could get a hold of Windows XP direct from microsoft MONTHS before it was released. Not to mention that big wig companies like digidesign could get it MUCH sooner. So the "been on the shelf for 3 weeks doesnt work for me". And if you are happy with running Windows 98SE that was released May of 1999 that thats your issue. 2002 is less than 60 days away!! I prefer to stay with the times. |
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I know that there are some people bashing everyone here for suggesting the importance of having Win Xp implemented for Digi 001. But what about people like me, who are currently in the process of buying both a new recording system (actually I am upgrading from a Roland 840ex) and a new computer at the same time, and I am planning on getting a powerful computer. But with the current uncertainty about when Digi will be ready, I am not sure what to do (but I am thinking that I will have to hold on to my 5 year old computer a little more before I make this big purchase- it has to have a P4 and Win XP if I am spending this much money). Maybe I should look at other systems more seriously?
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Good point jim...unfortunately i cant afford a mac or a tdm system...im running 2 processors, half of which aren't being used and a gig of ram that 3/4 of which is useless. I think the point is to make the capabilities of todays systems able to use.
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What part of "they're working on it" do people who keep posting about this every day not understand? Do you think they're going to work on it for a while, then stop and wait for people to beg for it some more? Do you think they're intentionally delaying it because they don't think people want it?
This OS has been on the shelves for maybe 3 weeks... many, many pieces of software/hardware do not support it yet, and some never will. Yet Digi has told everyone that they are working on support for it. Why is that so hard for people to grasp? |
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Hi guys!
I have to say, firstable, I thought about moving to XP and I thought it must happen as fast as possible, because my system crashed everytime I was working on my music. I wanted to reinstall Windows. Then I deactivated MIDI for the Digi001 in the Windows Multimedia Panel. Afterwards I started playing with the configuration of my RAM. Now I'm running my 100 MHz 196 MB RAM @ CL3 and with Fast Turn Around on my VIA KX 133 Chipset and my Athlon 800. Do you know what? In Logic Audio I'm using now 24 Tracks, 2 Software Synths (in my last Setup, I'm sure I could use more), masses of Plug-ins (minimum 2 per track) and 4 direct Inputs monitoring. Digi001 connected via Direct I/O. Mixdown without problems, no crashes ever since I configured my RAM! I think the point is not the OS, but the RAM that has a main part, because everything happens in it! And what else? I don't even realise the CL3 in the performance, except maybe in a Benchmark (Sandra), but I accept this if I get a stable system like mine now! regards Bernie |
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Hi all,
I have avoided these posts in the past, but I will echo what I'm hearing from English Jim. I will not be using Win XP in the near term, and my guess is that this will be true for at least a year. First, I'll let DigiDesign tell us that things are working, and then other people that buy new computers loaded with XP report what they really find, and then check to find out if EVERY piece of hardware in my system has a device driver, and then maybe, and only maybe, think about upgrading. You will not likely find any performance improvements in XP. NT was slower because of the way NT manages application memory. New operating systems aren't going to go significantly faster. You will likely find little support for plug-ins other than Digi right away, not because XP has any problems, but because the installed base of Win 98 machines and Win ME machines will dwarf the number of XP users for the next 3 years. If you were a plug in develoiper, looking to make money, would you develop for a large, installed base of users, or a new, smaller group of early adopters of XP? Right now I'd settle for ubiquitous RTAS support and can XP in a second... For those of you that haven't been through this before, this is normally an ugly time of change, especially for hardware support. I know Digi will get there with XP, but in the meantime, when we can do 24 tracks of recording with Win ME and have it be completely stable, what's the rush to create a new set of problems? With best regards, Mark |
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Re: Windows XP Petition
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 8mmOverdose:
D*MN, My computer runs great with 98SE and 512 ram, does this mean i need to take 256 megs back out??? [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes...you probably could...and wouldn't notice any difference at all! With win XP, you'll want the extra Ram. This comes to the heart of why people want an XP upgrade. Yes...it will probably be a little slower if you test one system with the same specs vs another. BUT, with XP, you can run with lots more RAM and dual processors are supported as well! Yes, PTLE doesn't support dual processors, but XP can still sort the other various tasks that happen in the backgroud to the other processor. Digi tells us to go out and put our 2 cents in as to what we want from them (PC RTAS Native Instruments for example), so I don't see the problem with telling Digi what we'd like to see as well.
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Re: Windows XP Petition
According to Microsoft, Win98SE can utilize up to 512MB of ram.
Have a look. http://support.microsoft.com/support...&fr=0&ln=EN-US <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by saxbill: Yes...you probably could...and wouldn't notice any difference at all! With win XP, you'll want the extra Ram. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> |
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