Protools 7.3 LE STILL BAD MIDI BEAT CLOCK

[Forum Member LE]

On my EMAGIC MT4 : If I send MBC to the 4 ports out ( 4 ports Checked in the prefs), then the BAR will play at 4X the tempo.
I have to check only ONE OUT PORT for the MT4...... and all ports will have the MBC......... this is a driver problem I think , cause it's work well with MIDIMAN 2X2.

No, I have seen this with many different MIDI interfaces except they played at 2x which was caused by the change DIGI made when they went to virtual MIDI ports that use emulation.

[alx002]

Look at my set Up : I never had your problem with MBC........ all my gears runs at the good tempo............ and since V6.4 !!!!

Did you tried v7.3 before??,

[alx002]

Any news?????

Ho YEs I forgot !!! Don't expect to have the V 7.4 working better !!!!! STill this bug in V7.4.......

[alx002]

Hi DIGITECH!!!! What's about the MIDI BEAT CLOCK !!!!! Do it will be fixed ONE DAY???

[alx002]

Hi Protools USERS!!!

Protools8 will come soon!!!! So A new thread will be open about that problem!!!

[DigiTechSupt]

Here's the explanation of behavior of MBC in Pro Tools:

MBC Looping

Pro Tools currently loops around MIDI Beat Clock (MBC) when playing in a loop. This feature is needed for instrument plug-ins with built-in sequencers or processing algorithms that rely on looped MBC messages for accurate operation, for example Synchronic. While most external devices should not have a problem with quick jumps of Song Position Pointer (SPP) messages, certain hardware sequencers will behave erratically at the loop point.

The exact MIDI event sequence at the loop point is as follows:
<Stop>
<Song Position Pointer> (pointing to the loop start location)
<Continue>

Other sequencer applications on the market today solve this problem by not looping MBC signals at all, i.e. even though the internal transport will play in a loop the MBC clock signal will continue “straight” and not contain SPP messages. Susceptible hardware sequencers will thus run without hiccups.

We are looking to introduce a preference that will allow users to switch between looped and unlooped MBC clock. Even though we’re well aware of the severity of this issue for some users we cannot discuss a release timeframe at this time. Thank you for your understanding and your continued support!

[alx002]

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

Here's the explanation of behavior of MBC in Pro Tools:

MBC Looping

Pro Tools currently loops around MIDI Beat Clock (MBC) when playing in a loop. This feature is needed for instrument plug-ins with built-in sequencers or processing algorithms that rely on looped MBC messages for accurate operation, for example Synchronic. While most external devices should not have a problem with quick jumps of Song Position Pointer (SPP) messages, certain hardware sequencers will behave erratically at the loop point.

The exact MIDI event sequence at the loop point is as follows:
<Stop>
<Song Position Pointer> (pointing to the loop start location)
<Continue>

Other sequencer applications on the market today solve this problem by not looping MBC signals at all, i.e. even though the internal transport will play in a loop the MBC clock signal will continue “straight” and not contain SPP messages. Susceptible hardware sequencers will thus run without hiccups.

We are looking to introduce a preference that will allow users to switch between looped and unlooped MBC clock. Even though we’re well aware of the severity of this issue for some users we cannot discuss a release timeframe at this time. Thank you for your understanding and your continued support!

You are funny..... this is exaclty what I have explained to your technicians one year ago...... you could quote your source ;-)

I'm still waiting for this preference to be implemented. So I won't buy PT8 for this moment

[alx002]

Hey guys from AVID ;-)

Are you still working of this new awaited feature for MBC ?

Thx

Alex

[bobby six killer]

Hi Alx,

i don't know if you're still here or if you solved your problem with Pro tools, but i am on PT 12... and i have the same problem with my drum machines

You know if this problem was finally solved by Pro Tools ?

Thanks for your answer,
Cheers.

mattia