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I've been using protools since the 90s and I've NEVER been able to reliably use midi since day 1. I've gone through many elaborate workarounds over the years and it's been crazy making for sure. These days, I just don't bother. I'd rather use ANY other software than Pro tools for midi. Such a ridiculous situation in 2024. I'm not calling out any of the AVID people here that are trying to get this fixed, but AVID as a company should be incredibly embarrassed at this point! |
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Hey zakco! Thanks for your comment!
I'm certainly not calling anyone out either! I'm just trying to continually be exceedingly clear about the issue as this problem and what is causing it is often misdiagnosed. I'm very grateful for all of the MIDI Improvements on the current version, but this implementation issue as it relates to Virtual Instruments cannot be overlooked! Do have faith that this longstanding issue will be addressed! Avid just needs to know that it is the #1 priority MIDI issue in Pro Tools.
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Thanks Tope for your response! This is a huge issue and is really the first step to Pro Tools becoming a viable DAW for serious midi work. Even though you’ve added some really great features, without fixing this it’s kinda pointless.
I just saw this and it seems SUPER relevant: https://cdm.link/ableton-live-latency/ Even though Ableton has always done things the “right” way (or at least how I’d want it to default) it looks like they just added the option to have it the way Pro Tools has always done (which would be the preferred way for people using midi hardware synths). This toggle Ableton just introduced is *exactly* what Skylar has been asking for and it really is the solution. It could be in the settings midi panel and does not be a toggle on the track. But that’s exactly what we need in PT. Thanks again for your help! |
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Glad to hear that this is being looked at.
Cubendo has had option for dealing with this for quite a while now. It can be set globally or per track. It's called "ASIO Latency Compensation". Essentially, it shifts recorded MIDI timestamps by the buffer size / latency values reported by your hardware. MIDI notes end up being recorded exactly where you heard them during recording, not where you played them (which would have likely been a little early to compensate for the latency you heard / felt). Hoping AVID can do something similar.
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checking back for any answers on this issue - marianna/tope?
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Thanks for continuing the discussion everyone!
Yes, I think Ableton nailed it with their implementation of the “keep latency” track-based toggle. In versions prior to Ableton 12, you could still turn monitoring off while recording for the MIDI notes to be placed when they were received, but it is possible you would need to do this while using the Auto or In track (monitoring) settings and therefore printing the latency if I’m not mistaken in a case when you would not like to. I do still think it should be a track based toggle so that MIDI recording workflows aren’t inherently limited by the use case when multiple tracks are being used. Being able to it all at once on different tracks is preferable! Thanks for the energy on this! And a big thank you to Marianna always!!!
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quick update
on a fresh APFS partition on my mac studio i just did a clean install of sequoia 15.1.1 - PT 2024.10.1 HDX SAME ISSUE!!! latency for midi/instrument tracks once any plugins are added to the session. here's a video showing the issue https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/72hgv...wxd4erqol&dl=0 just feeling defeated here. i've tried everything but a different interface than my antelope galaxy 64 (which is an expensive proposition) PT 2024 is just broken for me Last edited by strawb; 12-04-2024 at 01:17 PM. |
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In a nutshell, if Avid decides to try to address this, it really needs to be a preference that can be toggled on and off.
I think what people are asking for is that they want the MIDI recordings to be compensated for the latency of the instrument so that the MIDI notes are placed later than actually played. If the MIDI is compensated for the buffer/latency of the instrument, then the performance and playback would be exactly the same. BUT... the MIDI would not be accurately placed where it was actually played. This would be a problem with some clients that aren't affected by the latency of the instruments (like a really good keyboardist I work with that plays in time no matter how much latency there is, or if someone records without monitoring their instrument). So if there is to be compensation, it should be an option in Preferences or Options or toggled on and off on the track.
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