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Old 12-08-2024, 04:40 PM
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Default Carbon vs Apollo latency with autotune

Hello all,

If recording a single channel, does the carbon offer reduced latency when tracking with autotune vs the Apollo? This would be my sole reason for getting the carbon as will likely use an external preamp. Has anyone who has used both for this application noticed a difference latency wise? Is it markedly reduced? Will usually record with autotune, a reverb, and compressor insert through console for monitoring purposes only.

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Old 12-08-2024, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Carbon vs Apollo latency with autotune

My Autotune Hybrid has 1,7 ms in DSP-mode (Carbon).
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Old 12-09-2024, 05:01 AM
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My Autotune Hybrid has 1,7 ms in DSP-mode (Carbon).
Thanks for replying. Is that at 48khz?
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Old 12-09-2024, 12:09 PM
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Yes.
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Old 12-09-2024, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Carbon vs Apollo latency with autotune

As far as I can tell Autotune Hybrid (which is the only AAX DSP version available) was never updated for ARM. So you would need to tun it on either an Intel Mac or in Rosetta mode.
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Old 12-10-2024, 02:16 AM
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No.
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Old 12-17-2024, 02:22 PM
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Hello all,

If recording a single channel, does the carbon offer reduced latency when tracking with autotune vs the Apollo? This would be my sole reason for getting the carbon as will likely use an external preamp. Has anyone who has used both for this application noticed a difference latency wise? Is it markedly reduced? Will usually record with autotune, a reverb, and compressor insert through console for monitoring purposes only.

Thanks
Apollo at 48kHz with AutoTune Realtime, or AutoTune Advanced Realtime is between 1.9 and 2.8ms, depending on which Apollo and which output. Both plugins add zero samples additional latency.

Carbon at 48kHz with AutoTune Hybrid is 2.38ms RTL (76 samples latency on AT Hybrid).
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Old 12-18-2024, 02:12 AM
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Apollo at 48kHz with AutoTune Realtime, or AutoTune Advanced Realtime is between 1.9 and 2.8ms, depending on which Apollo and which output. Both plugins add zero samples additional latency.

Carbon at 48kHz with AutoTune Hybrid is 2.38ms RTL (76 samples latency on AT Hybrid).
Thanks Matt. That’s actually way closer than I had imagined.
Do you perhaps have the figures for 96kHz? Also, when you say depending on which Apollo, are you referencing duo vs quad, gen 1 vs 2, desktop vs rack, or other?

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Old 12-19-2024, 01:58 PM
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Thanks Matt. That’s actually way closer than I had imagined.
Do you perhaps have the figures for 96kHz? Also, when you say depending on which Apollo, are you referencing duo vs quad, gen 1 vs 2, desktop vs rack, or other?

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Generation and output both matter. The X series has higher latency than the older units at 48kHz and below, due to the better DA conversion.

At 96kHz all Apollos are the same, pretty much.

1.1ms RTL at 96kHz on Apollo.
IF AutoTune Hybrid AAX latency is still 76 samples at 96kHz you'd be looking at about the same RTL on Carbon.
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