Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by scotsman

What were the conversation with Avid.....

They sent me to the top floor.

I walked down a long corridor and saw this door that was 210 feet tall and 50 feet wide.

It simply said "Avid".

I knocked on it and out came a little man. Couldn't have been more then 3 feet tall. He escorted me into the main room where I awaited "the man".

He approached me from his throne wearing a cape with a big "A" on the chest. He told me he was awaiting my visit.

I told him we needed to speak. We spoke for what felt like 12 hours. We laughed. We cried. We talked of the good old days when Sound Tools reigned supreme and Pro Tools costed thousands to playback merely 4 tracks.

We got drunk. We got giddy. Then I brought up "the issue". "Avid" I said. "We need drivers for some of the older controllers." I mentioned them by name and he paused for second. Pulled out a little remote control that had but one button on it. It was red. How convenient.

He pushed that little button and before I could say "Contr…" I was 300 feet below running for my life on a field of grass being chased by a dozen hungry wolves.

You see. I never did get my answer. But in another way. I think that I did…

[louieshowers]

Originally Posted by Chief Technician

Most moderators did not have direct communication with the people who made this decision. I certainly did not.

What other company in the world picks favorite customers and allows only them to communicate while the others just have to sit and deal with their decisions without any means of communication?

To me, that is the definition of discrimination. Long live Pro Tools but fire every single person in charge of making decisions at avid.

Kenny, great imagination, but unprofessional. You moderators are the voice of Avid. You accepted the title.. You can't have it both ways.. if you guys want to be respected, i would suggest you would lay off the sarcasm. The whole "we don't work for Avid, but we have special privelages" is getting old.. and also the luxury of saying whatever you guys want...

[Kenny Gioia]

OK. Here's what really happened.

And keep in mind. This might be as wrong as my first attempt.

You guys complained to us.

We complained to the people who you see pop in now and again who work for Avid.

They complained to the people that put them in charge of the forums.

They complained to the people that hired them and they complained to anyone who would listen.

Someone had a meeting to discuss it. They probably ran the numbers. They decided against it.

I wasn't in the meeting. None of my peers were in the meeting and I'm betting that no one in the next three levels were in the meeting either.

It won't be televised and a transcript of the meeting isn't available online.

I'm pretty sure that Julian Asange and Edward Snowden won't be getting involved either.

I know you guys want a better answer and you probably deserve one but this is it. A better answer won't change our situation unfortunately. The result will still be the same.

I believe that the people making this decision monitored this thread along with our suggestions so our voice was no louder than any other user.

My apologies.

[C]

Originally Posted by louieshowers

What other company in the world picks favorite customers and allows only them to communicate while the others just have to sit and deal with their decisions without any means of communication?

All of them

[bcwiz]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

They sent me to the top floor.

I walked down a long corridor and saw this door that was 210 feet tall and 50 feet wide...
You see. I never did get my answer. But in another way. I think that I did…

That was a funny little story, made me laugh.

[Camilo Orozco]

Originally Posted by Shan

It very much is legal and the reason we started seeing 3rd party I/O show up for TDM systems back in the day. As far as the Control 24/Pro Control output data goes, there's nothing to reverse engineer for the most part. Many functions will work simply just by remapping them. I have my very own Microsoft mouse do custom functions in Pro Tools that no Avid hardware controller could even touch. Is Microsoft or Avid going to come after me for writing programs to make my mouse do what I want it to do? Are Avid lawyers really going to go after evangelistic users for remapping output controller data in order to keep using the very software they love using(that being PT of course)? This is very unlikely and would be a complete PR disaster in my opinion.

Shane

I am willing to pay for the remapping program for ProControl.

[bcwiz]

So does anyone know if the .dll and .rsr personality files are all that's needed for the controllers to communicate with Pro Tools?
Perhaps someone on here knows someone who can answer these questions?

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by bcwiz

That was a funny little story, made me laugh.

A little levity never hurt no one.

And I am not the "voice" of Avid.

I speak for the trees, the Truffula trees.

[groundcontrol]

Some people here really need to lighten up...

And I do own a PC.
...and previously also had a C24 which I didn't like that much compared to the PC.

[Shan]

Originally Posted by scotsman

And this is why we will keep lobbing Avid to change their strategy...

Originally Posted by iMartin

You mean we should give up? No way!...

Originally Posted by x9blade

I think we all know that the spirit of this thread is to let avid knownhow displeased we are with the decision to drop our controllers. Also we want avid to do well,its the software we all know and love and want to keep using.
Upgrade software,i/o's and even controllers.but we cant and wont move foward with these poor decisions they are making
So yes if your saying to just lie down and give up,i say stay out!
I wanted to upgrade all of my blue i/o boxes and digi pres wont do it now.
Again not a threat just the truth.
Why would anyone want avid to lose business
Why would anyone tell us to give up

There was a new survey sent out via email today that I know a few have received. I recommend filling it out. Be honest in your replies both pro and con. Though it's easy to vent on these surveys, I recommend they be written in a respectful tone so we know they will be read at HQ and taken seriously. There is usually an "other" section on the surveys where one can communicate how this decision affects them. I hope others in this thread who have decided to pack it in will also do the same. By filling out the survey, our voices will still be heard. These surveys are read, taken seriously, and important for feedback and marketing etc. I will be filling out mine also and continue lobbying for a change on this decision via this outlet.

Shane