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Optimum level for master volume - PRE-mastering
My master fader has a Waves L1 Ultramaximizer on it. The overall volume for the track is very good and nothing clips. HOWEVER, things can get just a bit 'crunchy' when the dynamics are very loud.
By reducing the master fader volume, the minor distortions go away. If I make up this loss of volume in the mastering phase, will this crunchy distortion rear it's ugly head again? I know it's better to leave more headroom for mastering, but I don't want to compromise my overall mix by reducing that master fader volume TOO much. Will it? THANKS!!! Scott
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Re: Optimum level for master volume - PRE-mastering
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You'll find that the L2 will give you a little more limiting before the distortion without adding the L1 character. You could also try out Massey's L2007. Fantastic price and quite honestly one of the top wideband limiters available.
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Something tells me that you are using the limiter to prevent overs on your master and are probably mixing to hot in general. a few overs can be remedied by pulling the master fader down a couple dB... more than than that and you should probably go back in and trim your channels and check that your plugs are not in the red as well. Distortion accumulates. |
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No clips with or without the L1.
I viewed the "Multi-Platinum" DVD series where John Merchant does a mix live. He suggested mixing with the L1 on the master fader allowing a -0.3 ceiling and a threshold of about -4.0. I put a trim plugin on all my audio tracks and simply adjust from there. He claims it helps preserve things sonically as opposed to lowering the volume faders themselves. I usually mix with this in place. If I bypass the L1 in this case, nothing happens really. The headroom increases by about 3-4db but I do not get any overs. No overs within any plugins, buses, sends either...nada. Is this technique NOT smart, or is it just 'his' (John Merchant's) way? I know it's all a matter of personal preference but I'm no mastering engineer and typically like to get my mixes as solid as I can without sending off to a mastering house, which I most certainly do with important projects.
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Re: Optimum level for master volume - PRE-mastering
Whatever technique works for you is not wrong.. You said "the mix was getting crunchy, (which means distortion) when your dynamics were loud".
What is making the dynamics loud and causing distortion? That is confusing. Personally, I don't see the advantage to mixing into a limiter. Leaving some headroom on your mixes is key. |
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the master fader if I need to. I do mostly singer songwriter projects and an usually keep everything under control. Thanks |
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If your individual channel levels are recorded conservatively (peaking between -18 to -6 dBfs) to begin with, there's no need to trim. |
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I do my best to get things recorded correctly. I am an old school guy who will spend as much time as needed getting things right rather than fix it in the mix. Thanks |
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Re: Optimum level for master volume - PRE-mastering
Ditto Waltz and Albee.. only thing I have in the master fader is an accurate large VU meter, a Phase meter, and a spectrum analyzer. More information not more sound.
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