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Old 09-27-2007, 05:45 AM
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:02 AM
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Sends are always post-insert, even when set to pre-fader — hence your delay. Print a temporary version of the “offending” tracks, and then record the talent.

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Old 09-27-2007, 07:22 AM
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turn off the delay compensation when recording..
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:59 AM
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Hei, Svein.

Let's say that the audio track set up for the talent only has a pre-fader send and no plugins, but the snare track has a delay of 1092 samples. In this example, 1092 samples on the snare track is the largest amount in this session.

If the talent track has a delay of 10 samples due to the send, it will be delay compensated by 1082 samples to keep alignment with the snare track.

Makes sense? Anyway, record with ADC off. Works great.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:47 AM
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The send should also behave like the output does when record is activated.

Thats my point here.


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It is the same. Your just not hearing the delay on the singers vox as your not in their head.
If they were in the room with you you'd notice.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:48 AM
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The send should also behave like the output does when record is activated.

Thats my point here.





It is the same. Your just not hearing the delay on the singers vox as your not in their head.
If they were in the room with you you'd notice.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:15 AM
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How about this kind of workaround:

1) create as many aux channels as you have audio tracks for the cue mix
2) move all plugins to the aux tracks
3) route audio tracks to aux tracks for mixing
4) create cue mix sends from the audio tracks that have no plugins

It will eat some more DSP for the mixer, but should also solve your trouble.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:37 AM
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If you're using Drum Rehab in "live" listen mode, just take the drum rehab track and nudge it ahead the amount of the delay and turn ADC off. If you're using committed triggers, print the track first. If you want to change the sound later you can just trigger off the printed track provided you retained enough of the original dynamics.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:35 PM
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What's your RTAS Buffer set to? Read the Drum Rehab docs for what it should be set to.

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Old 09-27-2007, 04:12 PM
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<<<<<<<<It's about the sends bypass its delaycomp when record is armed like the tracks output does.
It does not on my system.>>>>>>>>

Does it happen when you manually turn off ADC in the Options menu.
It is suggested, repeatedly, In the manual to turn off ADC when recording. i think "they" are trying to tell us something. Also, "they" or anyone else would probably like to know your specifics like PT version, etc....
Granted, I find it a bit confusing/redundant/inconsistant.... when in one place the manual says "turn it off" and in another place it says it is "turned off automatically" when tracks are record enabled.

>>>>>>>>>One other thing I have noticed.
Say you use pre roll and want to monitor the track before punching in, the preroll audio is not compensated>>>>>>>

uhhh..... it's been said 3 times on this thread alone..... turn off ADC when recording. Does that not work for you?
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