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Old 02-10-2021, 11:11 AM
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Of course, there can't be any sharing of FX Returns between Stems. Each Stem has to be self-contained regarding their FX.
Of course. Same goes for my printing solution.


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Of course, this falls into the category of bouncing each pass separately.
Therefore missing the point of the OP:

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GOAL:
To be able to bounce 3 versions of a mix all in one go.
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Haven't seen any mention of VCA Groups.

Assign all the individual Stems (Drums-Guitar-Vox, or Dialog-SFX-Music) to individual VCA Groups.
Now the only button you have to press is the Solo button on a VCA Master Fader representing an individual Stem and bounce it.
This is something you can't do with an Aux Input Track (unless you use the Routing Folder Track)

Of course, there can't be any sharing of FX Returns between Stems. Each Stem has to be self-contained regarding their FX.
Of course, this falls into the category of bouncing each pass separately.
It doesn't have to be either/or. Use both Auxes and VCA's.

Solo'ing and bouncing in passes is silly when you can easily do it all at once. It just takes planning, and then you can work on a template.

For the template you can create one or two tracks of each type you need, drum, lead, bvox, etc... Bus them appropriately and assign VCA's. Then when you use the template you can duplicate the tracks to end up with what you actually need in that particular session. Assignments and colors and what not will already be done.
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It doesn't have to be either/or. Use both Auxes and VCA's.

Solo'ing and bouncing in passes is silly when you can easily do it all at once. It just takes planning, and then you can work on a template.

For the template you can create one or two tracks of each type you need, drum, lead, bvox, etc... Bus them appropriately and assign VCA's. Then when you use the template you can duplicate the tracks to end up with what you actually need in that particular session. Assignments and colors and what not will already be done.
I feel like nobody's reading my posts.
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Your posts make too much sense, that's why they are not commented
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Your posts make too much sense, that's why they are not commented
Thanks. I think...
I'm just eager to see if anybody had a look at my session example that I posted. Shows a good solution to the multi-bounce-print, I think. Also, a good band.
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I was replying to someone else

I'm in agreement with your point but also giving a tip on templates.
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I made a small session to illustrate this. 28mb:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yul...ew?usp=sharing
First let me thank everyone who contributed to this thread months back. I have since left Cubase entirely, bought a Carbon and am fully back in PT.

Ben in particular, I have tried your solution today and it seems to work great. I have to duplicate the mix buss processing for all the 3 versions, and I have to use the bounce dialog rather than the PRINT tracks, since I record at 48 but client needs 44.1. Otherwise, it seems to be working...unless I am hearing things! This will save me a ton of time over the months, so again thank you, and thanks for taking the time to make a demo session!

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... a full version, a version with just background vocals, and an instrumental...
I'd keep it simple & print 3 off-line bounces (mutes for bounce 2 &3). Done.
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First let me thank everyone who contributed to this thread months back. I have since left Cubase entirely, bought a Carbon and am fully back in PT.

Ben in particular, I have tried your solution today and it seems to work great. I have to duplicate the mix buss processing for all the 3 versions, and I have to use the bounce dialog rather than the PRINT tracks, since I record at 48 but client needs 44.1. Otherwise, it seems to be working...unless I am hearing things! This will save me a ton of time over the months, so again thank you, and thanks for taking the time to make a demo session!

Tom
Glad to hear.
Thanks for the feedback.
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OK the plot thickens....can anyone advise?

Here is a shot of the output section of my mix.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxlqoh46cy...%20PM.png?dl=0

The setup will allow me to bounce a full mix, a mix with only background vocals and music, and finally, a music only mix, in one go.

But what is happening is the two alternate mixes (back Vox mix and inst mix) are noticeably louder than the main mix. I've made sure all inserts are matched in levels and EQ (they are just copied over from the main mix).

SUBMST: That's where everything goes before it hits the MIX fader, for level control.
MIX: The main mix out
ALL BVOX: That's one of the alternate versions with only music and back Vox, assigned to "nowhere" as instructed previously in the thread.
ALL MUS: Same, only just music.
MASTER2: This acts in the same way as the SUBMST does with the main outs, it's a master for the "NOWHERE BUSS" and is matched to the same level as the SUBMST.

Main mix is not as loud as the alternates. What on earth am I missing here?

Thanks much
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