Going back to 2021.3... see other posts

[falcowe]

Originally Posted by rinky

Same experience here.

I’m not having any GUI issues here (10.15.7). And I have similar specs to you Rinky. Maybe it’s a Big Sur issue? I saw a bunch of Big Sur users mentioning GUI issues.

[Obsidian Dragon]

Originally Posted by falcowe

I saw a bunch of Big Sur users mentioning GUI issues.

Yeah. I'm noticing that too. Obviously people using M1 based Mac are running Big Sur but most of the others reporting GUI issues (glitches, screen tears, beachballs, laggy meters, slow response to mouse input, etc.) are running Big Sur. Maybe that is something avid can look into.

I'm not a coder, but perhaps Avid's coding for Big Sur is written differently to handle graphics in a new way in preparation for supporting the M1's system on a chip design where the GPU is on the same chip as the CPU. This rewriting may adversely affect existing discrete GPUs in the Intel based Macs too. Hopefully they get this sorted quickly as we are seeing many users revert back to previous version of Protools.

To test this theory, if there are non Big Sur users experiencing these symptoms with Protools 2021.6, please post your system specs in this thread.

[falcowe]

Originally Posted by Obsidian Dragon

Yeah. I'm noticing that too. Obviously people using M1 based Mac are running Big Sur but most of the others reporting GUI issues...

If I had to guess, I'd say it was Rosetta 2 causing the issues. Which means it'll likely take quite some time before all of the issues are worked out, as the only real solution would be for native Apple Silicon support. Which I suspect will take quite some time.

[ferrerh]

I rolled back to 2021.3.1, frequent beach ball, impossible to work fluently.

[Obsidian Dragon]

Originally Posted by falcowe

If I had to guess, I'd say it was Rosetta 2 causing the issues.

But people using Intel Macs don't go through Rosetta2. Yet many are still experiencing these GUI issues. So far, the common denominator seems to be Big Sur and Protools 2021.6.

[JingleDjango]

I'm on 10.14.6 and experiencing beachballs and unresponsive UI as well.

[Obsidian Dragon]

Originally Posted by JingleDjango

I'm on 10.14.6 and experiencing beachballs and unresponsive UI as well.

Ok, so we have an exception to the theory. Are there more? What type of Mac are you on? I think I'm hearing more issue for people with 27" iMacs (just a suspicion or hunch). Let's hear more responses.

[JingleDjango]

Mine's homemade.

[nebosphere]

Originally Posted by dankin

No...need to update that old signature...on Big Sur 11.4 here, MBP16 with 32 gig of ram. I was on 11.3.1 when I first installed 2021.6, decided to update to 11.4 to see if that would help, but both were really sluggish. I haven't had any crash's, so it's stable in that regard, just annoyingly sluggish like others are reporting. It all seems graphic related. I'm seeing the random black box's appear in the timeline. Also, plugins are responding slow when adjusting parameters.

Curious to know if you running your display scaled, or at native resolution. I have a 4k monitor and my graphics issues are MUCH worse when I run it scaled. That said, I have to or I can't see anything

2018 Mac mini, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD, AMD RX 5600 XT eGPU, 4k display using DisplayPort.

[nebosphere]

Originally Posted by nebosphere

Curious to know if you running your display scaled, or at native resolution. I have a 4k monitor and my graphics issues are MUCH worse when I run it scaled. That said, I have to or I can't see anything

2018 Mac mini, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD, AMD RX 5600 XT eGPU, 4k display using DisplayPort.

Forgot to add: Running MacOS 11.4 and the UI sluggishness has been much worse than when I was using Catalina