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Yeah the way I see it the first ryzen's compete with the quad-core desktop i7's. The new threadripper series is their answer to the HPDT chips. The 6-18 core i7's and now i9's. And the Epyc are more like Xeons. Designed to also be used in multi cpu configurations.

And to me the interesting thing is the 8-core ryzen chips were already comparable to the midrange HPDT intel chips. But priced like intels quad core i7. Now intel has obviously changed their pricing strategy with the next generation of HPDT chips. But it will still be interesting the price to performance ratio. It looks like the 18-core i9 will be around $1700. I've seen rumors, and yes only rumors, that the 16-core threadripper may be closer to $1000. So if performance is close, that's a big $700 pill just to stay intel.

But yes thunderbolt is absolutely one huge thing intel still has over AMD.