Hmmm, no matter what DAW you end up using, if you want to do recording for anything more than podcasts, then a real interface is required. If you're not willing to buy an interface, then forget about recording(even my cheapo brother-in-law bought a little Focusrite box to do audio book recordings). ASIO4ALL is a band-aid at best, and the Realtek has poor audio quality in both directions.