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Old 12-26-2012, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: How To Re-amp with Eleven Rack and Pro Tools HD?

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Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm View Post
I am not sure why you are following up to the years old thread which is about a technical discussion on a USB feature that does not exist and you do not need.

No you do not need a digital (AES/EBU or S/PDIF) connection to reamp, but doing so avoids unnecessary D/A and A/D conversion. not that I have tried it with an Eleven Rack but with AES/EBU you should be able to get lengths like 100'. How large is your studio? Are you using a proper 110 ohm AES/EBU cable (not a random mic cable)?

All you need is in the Eleven Rack User Guide chapter 6 section titled "Using Eleven Rack with an Existing Pro Tools System". Read that not the later "Re-Amping" section in the later chapter about using the Eleven Rack as a Pro Tools interface (because you are not).

To overview the user guide instructions: If you just want to get going reamping through an Eleven Rack with a HD interface is easy. No different in principle to a real rig or any other outboard box. You just output your dry signal on the interface and connect that output to the Eleven Rack and then connect back the Eleven Rack to the interface inputs. You can use analog or digital either way, your choice. But digital would be nicer-- but make sure you have clocking set up and the same clock rate on both sides. You just set the Eleven Rack rig input (under the Eleven Rack user options) to whatever input in the Eleven Rack you are driving with the dry signal (e.g. Line in L or digital R or whatever you want) -- do not set it to 'reamp'--that is the USB input you are not using in this case, only when the Eleven Rack is the interface. And you set up the appropriate Eleven Rack output into the interface. If you want to use a (stereo) digital return for your wet signal you need to set up the digital output to mirror the main outs' all under the Eleven Rack "user options".

You may need to sit down and draw a connection between all the boxes showing the signal flow you want then confirm the cabling and settings in Pro Tools and in the eleven rack follow this.

As with any debugging confirm things work one thing at a time. E.g. First step is probably setup the Eleven Rack with a guitar input And just play the guitar and confirm you can record the wet signal through your HD interface. Then drive the Eleven Rack rig input with a dry signal from Pro Tools --do the input meters move in the Eleven Rack? Do you hear a wet signal if you connect headphones to the Eleven Rack? And so on...

If you want help here you need to describe exactly what you are doing, what debug steps you have done, maybe even post that connection diagram online.

Darryl
Hi Daryl,

Well, first off I followed up on a years old thread because it seemed to have the information about the Eleven Rack and it seemed like a good place to start. Also there was a knowledgable group here in the discussion. Rather than bore you with my very busy schedule as a film composer and sound designer, I'll just say that from what I have read and seen online that the the way to interface with the Eleven Rack to Another Protools interface such as the new Avid IO which I have was AES or SPDIF as explained on Mg 69 of the Eleven Rack Manual. Of course you can connect via an open pair of analog line inputs on your interface as well, however the songs are from a band that I was helping out over the holidays and really wanted to reamp the parts they put down with my Eleven Rack sounds. Gt Rig 5 seems to work fine too, but I am really anxious to do it thru the 11R. After reading pages 68-71 in the Eleven manual this seemed to be the way to do it. I think it's probably just some sort of IO thing possibly as I have a very large control room and several other recording rooms here and need to just have my tech in after the holidays and pay him to do it for me. So thanks for at least trying to figure out my lame attempt here, but I have been so busy I really have not had time to go into the wiring anymore as the room were just set up in the new spaces in Nov and so a lot I am not aware of yet-:)
I'll just move on to an alternative for this favor for a friend I am doing with another option.
Regards, G
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