kinda weird almost every time i post here i solve my answer just takes lots of hrs lol ok i fixed the problem and im going to list it just in case someone needs it one day .. the problem was that the pref was telling the wave shell not to load the rtas soo i went to Application Data\Waves Audio\Preferences and found 5.7 which was the ssl plugin and viewed it in notepad and looked untill i saw RTAS "false" and i just typed in true and saved and reload and it found the plugin to be seen in both plugin menus ..
