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Old 08-28-2022, 03:56 PM
Darryl Ramm Darryl Ramm is offline
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Default Re: Documentation Folder updates

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Originally Posted by dominicperry View Post
I have iDrive backing up my entire "Documents" folder on my Mac (overnight).
I have Pro Tools using all the default MacOS locations for everything.
Everytime I start Pro Tools, it refreshes 7 documents in the Documents/Pro Tools/Documentation folder.
This means that every time I open Pro Tools I end up with another backup of those 7 documents.
I don't want to exclude any folders from my main Documents folder backup, because then any new folders added to Documents won't get backed up. It needs to always backup new files and changed files, which is what it currently does.
So I have two questions. Why does PT refresh these documents every time it runs, and is there any way to stop it from doing so?

Thanks

Dominic
Well (edit: putting my glasses on and actually reading the output) I also see Pro Tools (2022.7 on Monterey 12.5.1 on an Intel MBP) modifying all the files here.

Pro Tools checks if the folder is there and will copy the doc out from its hiding space inside the Pro Tools App bundle.

The birthtime being modified on every startup below makes it look like Avid is really coping those files over every damn time Pro Tools starts up. So not like just touching files, but actually blindly stupidly copying all the files over, and we wonder why Pro Tools is is a slow piece of crap starting up.

File a support incident with Avid support post the incident number here.

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Quick test here to prove that the Documentation folder and documents times are being updated:

Stat is just a wrapper for the stat system call, the stat time lists is st_atime, st_mtime, st_ctime, st_birthtime aka (last access, last data modification, last file status change (e.g permission, owner etc.), creation)

Code:
$ cd ~/Documents/Pro\ Tools/
$ stat Documentation
16777242 111683 drwxr-xr-x 9 darryl staff 0 288 "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 27 21:15:27 2022" 4096 0 0 Documentation
$
$ stat Documentation/*
16777242 1351611 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 18146577 "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" 4096 35448 0 Documentation/Audio Plug-Ins Guide.pdf
16777242 1351614 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 50 "Aug 28 15:35:05 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" 4096 8 0 Documentation/Online Documentation.url
16777242 1351612 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 50 "Aug 28 15:35:05 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" 4096 8 0 Documentation/Online Read Me and Release Information.url
16777242 1351615 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 10179050 "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" 4096 19888 0 Documentation/Pro Tools Quick Reference Guide.pdf
16777242 1351610 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 52588890 "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" 4096 102720 0 Documentation/Pro Tools Reference Guide.pdf
16777242 1351609 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 1006536 "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" 4096 1968 0 Documentation/Pro Tools Shortcuts.pdf
16777242 1351613 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 686150 "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" "Aug 28 15:35:03 2022" 4096 1344 0 Documentation/What's New in Pro Tools 2022.6.pdf
$

<I separately run and exit Pro Tools> 

$ stat Documentation
16777242 111683 drwxr-xr-x 9 darryl staff 0 288 "Aug 28 15:40:55 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 27 21:15:27 2022" 4096 0 0 Documentation
$
$ stat Documentation/*
16777242 1352093 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 18146577 "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" 4096 35448 0 Documentation/Audio Plug-Ins Guide.pdf
16777242 1352096 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 50 "Aug 28 15:40:56 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" 4096 8 0 Documentation/Online Documentation.url
16777242 1352094 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 50 "Aug 28 15:40:56 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" 4096 8 0 Documentation/Online Read Me and Release Information.url
16777242 1352097 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 10179050 "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" 4096 19888 0 Documentation/Pro Tools Quick Reference Guide.pdf
16777242 1352092 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 52588890 "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" 4096 102720 0 Documentation/Pro Tools Reference Guide.pdf
16777242 1352091 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 1006536 "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" 4096 1968 0 Documentation/Pro Tools Shortcuts.pdf
16777242 1352095 -rw-rw-rw- 1 darryl staff 0 686150 "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" "Aug 28 15:40:54 2022" 4096 1344 0 Documentation/What's New in Pro Tools 2022.6.pdf
$

Last edited by Darryl Ramm; 08-28-2022 at 04:20 PM.
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