Documentation Folder updates
I have iDrive backing up my entire "Documents" folder on my Mac (overnight).
I have Pro Tools using all the default MacOS locations for everything. Everytime I start Pro Tools, it refreshes 7 documents in the Documents/Pro Tools/Documentation folder. This means that every time I open Pro Tools I end up with another backup of those 7 documents. I don't want to exclude any folders from my main Documents folder backup, because then any new folders added to Documents won't get backed up. It needs to always backup new files and changed files, which is what it currently does. So I have two questions. Why does PT refresh these documents every time it runs, and is there any way to stop it from doing so? Thanks Dominic |
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Hmmm, not sure, but I have 1 question/concern; Are you putting your sessions into your documents folder(this is the default setting)? I would change that(use the Prompt for Location option for new sessions). Just my opinion, but, assuming your system drive is an SSD, I would create a new folder for all your sessions and back that folder up as a separate item. My reasons are:
1-So your session backups are kept separate(there are a few reasons why this would be my choice), though I don't know if this will affect your direct issue. 2-I just prefer some things to be separated. 3-I would also be backing up your system(separate from your sessions). With this in mind, I would also move current sessions to the new "Sessions" folder. Of course, all of this also assumes you have only the single SSD. With non-SSD or multiple drives, I might choose to do this differently. But wait, there's more:p:p If you are creating your own Session Templates and Track Presets(and by all means, you should), keep copies of those somewhere else than the Documents folder(an external drive is a good choice). Why? Because every time you install Pro Tools, it will install all the stock(and mostly useless) stuff, which you can feel free to delete immediately after the install(along with maybe deleting Avid Link as well):D |
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Thanks for your reply. I'll answer your questions, but I don't think any of them have a bearing on the original query....
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Unbelievably, I don't create any templates or presets. I probably should, but I always build everything from nothing. But I take your point - if I create some, I need to preserve them in a place where they won't get overwritten. And yes, Avid Link and Avid Cloud Services go as soon as I've finished the install. They are quite nicely written de-installers! Thanks for your time in replying. Dominic |
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Pro Tools checks if the folder is there and will copy the doc out from its hiding space inside the Pro Tools App bundle. The birthtime being modified on every startup below makes it look like Avid is really coping those files over every damn time Pro Tools starts up. So not like just touching files, but actually blindly stupidly copying all the files over, and we wonder why Pro Tools is is a slow piece of crap starting up. File a support incident with Avid support post the incident number here. --- Quick test here to prove that the Documentation folder and documents times are being updated: Stat is just a wrapper for the stat system call, the stat time lists is st_atime, st_mtime, st_ctime, st_birthtime aka (last access, last data modification, last file status change (e.g permission, owner etc.), creation) Code:
$ cd ~/Documents/Pro\ Tools/ |
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Thanks for checking Darryl.
It's not the end of the world. The seven files are about 80MB, and iDrive does incremental backups, so it may not be the whole file it's backing up each time. And it only keeps 10 copies, so the total amount backed up will be less than 1GB. It's just irritating - I check my backup log every day and like to see it backing up the new and altered stuff. Having a pile of files in there which shouldn't have changed is just a distraction. Will file a report with Avid as suggested. Dominic |
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And the work around for this sloppy stupidity to make sure your Documentation files are in place and then remove the parent files from their hiding place in the Application Bindle.
Be careful. Code:
$ cd /Applications/Pro\ Tools.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Documentation |
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Pro Tools already does exactly the right thing with core plugins being copied out of the app bundle, why could they not just reuse that same approach/code? |
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Dominic |
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As for the plugins / documentation - that's good if they've written the right code somewhere, they can re-use it. I will log a case when I have some time to do so. Dominic |
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Holy cow Darryl, it is digging it out of the app bundle on startup. 2022.6 here. What a waste.
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