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EjA 12-05-2003 10:21 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
"The DUC Becomes Eclectic" I love this thread.
Thought I'd throw this one into the ring; any feedback, however harsh will be heard with a stiff upper lip. I think of myself as primarily a songwriter.

Check it out:

Las Chicas Mas Finas

Thanks!

EjA

GORILLA 12-06-2003 01:18 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Jamlaw...tune & mix sounds great!!!
Eja...couldn't download the tune...

EjA 12-06-2003 03:31 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
The link works for me. I think IE has problems with BroadJam.
I'm using Safari, what are you using?

EjA

GORILLA 12-06-2003 04:05 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Yep....must of been an IE thang
Went on Safari and got it!!!!
Nice man!!!!! What kinda guitar/amp set-up is that? Really Jazzy!!!!! And sounds great....only slight.....little problem. Actually it aint that serious was the tune ended around 4:30 sec. but there's about a :50sec blank spot at the end..he he he he.
But, the tune sounds great man!!!!!!!!

GORILLA 12-06-2003 04:40 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
THANKS DIGI.... for making this a stickie!!!!!!! ...wow I'm rapping!!!!! I better just stick to Metal music.
O.K. Now Lets link up the tunes Digians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DesertDude 12-06-2003 07:07 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
OK Gorilla, Now that is is an official stickie ( who said digi does not listen) I must share these offerings...

musicdude


Dimi 12-07-2003 06:03 AM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Here is my band

im 17 and been playing drums for 2.5 years,recording for one year using a 001 and mackie mixer...

here is my mix, please give me some feed back!

http://www.soundsgreatrecordingstudi...ent/track3.mp3

AIM: XX9XINCHXNAILSXX

GORILLA 12-07-2003 06:52 AM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
DesertDude I can't get to your tunes.

Here's a wierd scenario....I just updated Final Cut Pro 4.1 and to do that I needed Quicktime 6.4 and for those you need Pro App. 1.1 GAWD fricking versions & updaters!!!!
Well I didn't want Safari, but got it anyways. Now it controls ALL mp3's on the web! My IE can't play any of them. But, I can't log in to Digi thru Safari? I have to go thru IE!! WTF
Is it me or is Safari like----LIGHTIN' FAST!!!!!
Hey Dimi tune sounds cool man, I really don't like disecting people's mixes. (Bands like and want certain instruments at different levels!) But I'm sure someone here will chime in on it!

DesertDude 12-07-2003 09:09 AM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Try this: Musicdude

Safari is the way to go on most sites IE is getting long in the tooth. Go to your pref's and enable tabs. great for switching pages. I have no prob going to the DUC


GORILLA 12-07-2003 09:24 AM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Kewl...I can log in at Digi now in Safari but, I can't get to your tunes DesertDude. I keep getting this message
--We're sorry, but we can't find the HomePage you've requested.--
I'll try later

badperson 12-07-2003 09:36 AM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
SSRjazz:

very good songs; sounds like they belong on the radio, great job. I agree with Roy there's a lot of low end on the recordings. Great job though.


Toddamo, very good call on hooking up with that singer, she's fantastic. I love that middle eastern quality of the music and the sound of the language itself, great work. I'd love to hear what kind of gear/techniques you used.

Aussie, I liked "let's go" and "think of you". The production of "Think of You" was my favorite of the two; nice song, nice job on the acoustic guitar. What did you do for the drum sound?

PAM; very cool tune, great sound. Would love to hear more about how you produced it.


bp.







GORILLA 12-07-2003 09:59 AM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Quote:

Here is something completly different - a classic piece...
Be patient its a wopping 11 minutes as its a whole score for a film...
http://www.funender.com/music/play.p...mode=song_hifi

Not all finished but never the less...

Comments welcome

Enjoy

Sounds Awesome!!! I love stuff like this!!!!!!!! If you don't mind me asking....what symphony/synth stuff are you using? Atmosphere-Kurzweil?

DesertDude 12-07-2003 11:02 AM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Hey G, empty your cache and try again. The first link indeed is no good the second one I posted is good on my end. Someone else give it a shot so we can troubleshoot for Gorilla...


Roy Howell 12-07-2003 11:59 AM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Toddamo,
After listening to your new songs with Rachel, I relistened to 'Sailing through September'...again, great song, cool changes...
-rh

GORILLA 12-07-2003 03:04 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Got it wiRkiNg now Emptied the cache.
Hey -Egypt- sounds cool man!!!!!!!! I'll listen to more later!!!!!!

P A M 12-07-2003 03:21 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Quote:

Quote:

Here is something completly different - a classic piece...
Be patient its a wopping 11 minutes as its a whole score for a film...
http://www.funender.com/music/play.p...mode=song_hifi

Not all finished but never the less...

Comments welcome

Enjoy

Sounds Awesome!!! I love stuff like this!!!!!!!! If you don't mind me asking....what symphony/synth stuff are you using? Atmosphere-Kurzweil?

BP, and Gorilla, - first off I´m really glad you like the tune and took the time to listen...

As you proberly guest its a very complex session but I´ll try to give you a general view of the session..
The session consists of 50 tracks, - 32 audio and the rest aux returns and busses. Session is 24 bit..
The sounds on the track is mostly Korg Triton and Roland JV blended with real string recording I´ve done.
All strings/synth is recorded through TC compressors with very light compression before going through tubes and into PT on seperate tracks..Pre amps used is Studio Projects VTB..
Some tracks is beefed-up with some duble-tracking, - there are all in all around 20 string tracks in the session (4 duble), - each track has been treated differently, eq, comp etc.
Horns/woods has around 4 tracks, piano 2 tracks, fx/voice 3 tracks, drums 3 tracks.
Hope this gives you some idear of the session..

DesertDude 12-07-2003 04:47 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Tanx...That synth sound is an old Roland Guitar Synth model 300/w808 guitar

Enjoy the music



Tito Ricci Arballo 12-07-2003 11:59 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Allright all you reggae lovers. Biggup your deads and peep the royal sounds of the Royals kikin' the Bastard Dub...Bomba Clot!!!

Bastard Dub

Ps. Vocal snippits by my boy, Ragga P.

Tito Ricci Arballo 12-08-2003 04:29 AM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Bastard Dub

Biggup your dreads and peep the royal sounds of the Royals kikin' the Bastard Dub...Bomba Clot!!!

Gene Backlin 12-08-2003 08:22 AM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Dimi,

Nice drum work both playing and mixing....tell us setup.


Going to listen to some more stuff, nice job getting the stickie !!!

Take Care,
Gene

GORILLA 12-08-2003 09:11 AM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Thanks P A M!!! I've heard those VTB's really warm stuff up!!! They're fairly cheap too! Thank for sharing the info!!!!

toddamo 12-08-2003 09:33 AM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Roy & BP...

Thanks for the kind words on the two tracks with my friend Rachel.
Regarding equipment used...Rhode NTK, Roland XP-30 keyboard,
Lexicon MPX-100, Squire Jazz Bass and the drum loops come from MultiLoops.

In terms of how they came together...this women has written hundreds
of songs which live in her head and also in fragments on a Minidisc.
She really has a very advanced musical mind for someone that doesn't
have any musical training. So she comes to me with songs and she sings
them section by section. I pull out the acoustic guitar and write
changes for each section. In some cases (like on Ani L'dodi )
her structures are fairly complex and precise. I've just learned
to trust her instincts. So I when I have the general structure down...I
record loops, guitar, piano and bass. From there its lead vocals and
overdubs...Lots of work involved but really pure joy.

One of my favorite aspects of working with ProTools is that I never
really know how a song is going to come out until the end. My methodology
in terms of arranging is like throwing a lot of paint at the wall.
I layer a lot of background melodies and vocal harmonies and strings
and counterpuntal stuff...etc. Then during the mix...I try to pair it all
back into a cohesive unit. I usually go through 4-5 mixes until I'm
almost happy.

Now...Hey Tito...as I been typing all this I've been grooving to this
'Bastard Dub' Track...REALLY nice. I'd very much like to hear about
what tools you used and what your process is like. Beautiful bass sounds
and patterns. Deep!

-todd amodeo

http://bartlebymusic.com

Tito Ricci Arballo 12-08-2003 12:18 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Toddamo wrote
Quote:

Hey Tito...as I been typing all this I've been grooving to this
'Bastard Dub' Track...REALLY nice. I'd very much like to hear about
what tools you used and what your process is like. Beautiful bass sounds
and patterns. Deep!


Thanks.

Well I sarted in Reason 2.5. Are you familiar with it? I'll assume you are. So I took a rex loop I sampled and fed it through some delay devices, just foolin' around to show my friend how cool Reason is. His friend told him it sounded flat so I flipped on my 15' JBL eon monitor and began dispelling that myth. I added the little 4 bar guitar plucking sample and smiled. It was sounding pretty fresh. The delay was out of sight so I decided to try my hand at dub. I've made hip-hop ragga beats for my boy Ragga P(vocal snippits in Bastard Dub) but that's as close to Reggae producing I ever got.

So what's the next most important aspect of dub? The bass of course. I used a sine wave with the Subtractor synth(Reason) and ran it through the Malstrom synth(Reason) to bring it out. The Malstrom is a synth that can also be used as an effects device. I then sequenced the 2 bass parts and the foundation of my song was built.

I made the alternate drum parts in the Redrum(Reason) drum machine. It started with an interpolation of the old Al Green drum loop. Then I reggaeafied it with some shuffle and whatnot.

So at this point I decided it needed a little piannee. Not piano, pianee(as the Simpsons episode goes). I loaded a Reason NN-XT patch I made of the bright pianno sound I made from my Groovebox. I've been spending a lot of time lately extracting sounds from it. Thought I better use one to justify all the time. I layed the chords down, then the sketchy pianee solo. (Read:"Lament of the Beat Programmer" thread from the Mac side for an explination of my piano skills.

I added the vocal snippits, sprinkled in a few more elements(vibes,clavenet) and called it a song.

Then I automated the delay effects in Reason.

Next, yes there's more, I ReWired the tracks into Pro Tools, ajusted the levels and eq'd it with the Digirack eq's. Then I added some more delay with a Digirack plug, eo'd the master fader a bit, added a little limiter, dither, and bounced to disk.

I imported my bounced file into iTunes, converted it to mp3 there, then posted it.

Was that too much information? Those are the secrets of the Bastard Dub.

Peace,

~Tito



Tito Ricci Arballo 12-08-2003 12:27 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Hey Dimi,

Nice sound. Kinda reminds me of rush or something. Sorry if I'm way off, I listen to hip-hop y'know, but me likes.

I kinda wanted the guitar to come out a bit more(i think) on the mixing tip but good work overall.

Keep up the nice drumming.

~Tito

Bastard Dub

-jj- 12-08-2003 01:55 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Hi you DUCcers
Here is some finnish alternative (metal? or something) band called Joint Depression:
Joint Depression and click "hear depression"
following page mite been in finnish, but there is 3 song to download (or listen): "??????" , "the night" and "get away"
All are made by PTLE and Digi001 in my "basement studio". I´d like to hear your professional comments about those songs.
Thanks

Aussie169 12-08-2003 02:41 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
bp

Thanks for the kind words.
The drums are done in Reason, using some one-hit samples that Roy gave me a while back. They are nice samples, very realistic IMO.

Dimi 12-08-2003 06:58 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
Hey guys,
thnx for listening
well pretty much, drums were recorded with 7 mics
3 toms
1kick
1 snare
2 over heads
MICS:
Toms 3 mics Oktava MK-012-01 with -10DB pad
KICK: Beta 52 ( internaly mounted )
Snare: SM57
Overheads: SM81
then went into a Mackie 1442
oh yea, the drums are a DW Collectors series
then it went into Pro tools
EQ TOMS in the mixer
KICK and Snare were EQ in pro tools ( Channel Strip RTAS)
Guitars were Direct out of a Line 6 Duoverb head into pro tools directly
Bass went into pro tools directly and used Amplitube (RTAS) on it
oh yea and i have a G4 450 with 1.25gbs of ram

Thanks for listening, and yea i think the guitars should come up a bit!
any other feed bacl welcome!

http://www.soundsgreatrecordingstudi...ent/track3.mp3


Roy Howell 12-08-2003 07:09 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Tito,
Very cool..... I especially like the snare/tambourine echo parts toward the end...
-Roy

Dimi 12-08-2003 07:32 PM

Re: Mac Mixes!!!!!!!!
 
hmm i thought i had post but it dosent seem to show?

if this shows ill post again..in a bit

Roy Howell 12-08-2003 08:03 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
jj,
Just listened to '?????'(interesting title... ), great guitars, and I like her voice very much. I'm about to listen to the other 2 songs as well. Good stuff.
thanks, Roy

-jj- 12-08-2003 08:59 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Roy,
The "??????" was only workname in start of session , and I used to ask several times what was the name of song, but they didn´t know. So they printed in cover "??????" and that´s it
I like her (Maria) voice too.. and not just the voice, it was very nice to record vocal parts in middle of the nights and early hours of morning with her
But I look forward to your comments to other tracks, thanks

SSRJazz 12-08-2003 09:47 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
jj: ?????? is rawkin! =)

aussie169: I love "Think of You" ... great acoustic guitar work.....just excellent mix overall...great job....

Here's a couple more for ya'll to chomp on.

I Need You - Clarence Bouse

and an instrumental:

I Will Prevail - Randy Melick


Enjoy..and keep 'em coming.... =)

Aussie169 12-08-2003 10:07 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Thanks Jeff

I'll download yours tonight. (at work right now)

Aussie169 12-08-2003 11:47 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Jeff

A few comments that I hope will help you. These are my opinions only, and I'm no pro. So take them as you will.

1.) I Need You. - Nice song. Back off the highs on the vocals, they get very harsh to my ears. He has the sort of voice I like to add a bit of color to, and that usually involves rolling off the tops.
When all the instruments come in, the vocals almost disappear. This suggests to me that you have some fairly heavy compression happening on the master fader. The heavy instruments come in and the comp squashes the crap out of everything and the vocals (lighter parts) get burried. Here's a little trick I have learned. bus ALL your instrument tracks to a stereo AUX track and put compression/limiting on there. Then bus ALL you vocal tracks to another stereo AUX track and add separate compression/limiting there. This way you have total comtrol over the two sides of the song. You can compress the crap out of the music without harming the vocals, which generally always need much lighter compression. This leaves the master fader for last stage EQing, stereo imaging etc. etc.

2.) I Will Prevail. - This is a really pretty track. Well played and mixed. Are the acoustics DI'd? It sounds like they are, but it sounds sweet.

Thanks for posting.

hornedrum 12-09-2003 08:32 AM

Here\'s mine
 
Feedback most welcome!

The track "Cabbage" is the most finished.....


http://homepage.mac.com/audiophiliac/


Tito Ricci Arballo 12-09-2003 11:31 AM

Re: Here\'s mine
 
horndrum,

That Cabbage is a tasty track. Real smooth. the levels sound good to me, too. Give us a look at your workflow.

Thanks, Tito

B. Dub

homepage

PS. I just noticed you used Reason. Very nice. Tell me about how you recorded the guitar.

SSRJazz 12-09-2003 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Jeff

A few comments that I hope will help you. These are my opinions only, and I'm no pro. So take them as you will.

1.) I Need You. - Nice song. Back off the highs on the vocals, they get very harsh to my ears. He has the sort of voice I like to add a bit of color to, and that usually involves rolling off the tops.
When all the instruments come in, the vocals almost disappear. This suggests to me that you have some fairly heavy compression happening on the master fader. The heavy instruments come in and the comp squashes the crap out of everything and the vocals (lighter parts) get burried. Here's a little trick I have learned. bus ALL your instrument tracks to a stereo AUX track and put compression/limiting on there. Then bus ALL you vocal tracks to another stereo AUX track and add separate compression/limiting there. This way you have total comtrol over the two sides of the song. You can compress the crap out of the music without harming the vocals, which generally always need much lighter compression. This leaves the master fader for last stage EQing, stereo imaging etc. etc.

Well, it's not a final mix by any means. In fact, I was playing with it up until the point I bounced it to mp3.

What are you listening to the song with?.. Headphones, Home Stereo?, etc? I don't have any problems hearing the vocals when the instruments come in. I do find that sometimes listening through headphones will sometimes give me an impression that the vocals are getting lost, but when I listen through a stereo or monitors, that's not really the case. I only have a 1.4 ghz processor so I have to bounce my final mix to disk then make a new session and master that. I'm using waves mblim, mbeq, rverb, and then an L2... there really isn't much compression going on with the L2....it's just there to give the hotter signal and ride out the peaks. My ears are REALLY picky about overcompression...drives me nuts when I hear it...so I try not to overdo it. I usually strive , 1) Keep most instruments as 'natural' sounding as possible unless I'm going for a specific effect. and 2) To get that nice crisp eq curve that most major label recordings have......really so it sounds you're sitting right there in the room with that band...except at a comfortable listening level. .might have pushed the high end just a little this one tho... I do find that sometimes I'm fighting with the vocal / music levels sometimes tho...I'll have to try your suggestions on some of the songs I'm having problems with. If I have a lot of vocal tracks, like on the gospel choir recordings I'm doing...I'll sub-mix the vocals down into aux tracks (one aux for lead vox, another for the choir). Gives me something else to try. =)

Quote:

2.) I Will Prevail. - This is a really pretty track. Well played and mixed. Are the acoustics DI'd? It sounds like they are, but it sounds sweet.


Yeah...I can't remember if Randy originally recorded this on a roland vs-xxxx workstation or if he did it with cubase vst and hooked into his soundblaster live drive I gave him. I know we recorded the bass part in pro-tools. All the acoustic guitar stuff is usually guitar <-> workstation input. Not even a DI box. Hohner makes some excellent and affordable acoustic guitars....and they sound and play killer.. (no I don't work for 'em..I just 'em) =) One of these days we're gonna get randy set up for recording directly with ProTools.... =)

Quote:

Thanks for posting.


Thanks for listening and for the great suggestions!

Aussie169 12-09-2003 02:18 PM

Re: Let\'s hear your latest stuff....right here
 
Hi Jeff
Yes, I was listening through cans, (but they are high end, Beyerdynamic DT770 pros) because the speakers on my home computer suck, and my 4yo son sleeps in the next room LOL.
You can still use that split compression technique on your system. Just bounce the music and vocals separately so you end up with two bounced tracks. Then put the two in your mastering session and take it from there. The technique is known as "2+2 mastering". There is a pro mastering engineer in Florida (Bill Roberts) who prefers to master this way. Gives him heaps more control.

Anyway, keep posting. I'd like to hear more.

Ping Pong 12-09-2003 04:26 PM

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Greetings to all. I am new to the forum and to audio engineering. I am a bit timid about submitting this example of what we (our band) are trying to accomplish using a Mac(OS9), PTLE and a couple of Mics (thru Mbox). Before submitting I read EVERY THREAD and listen to EVERY SAMPLE. Some really good i.e., GOOD stuff out there. Also took time to read as many profiles (of members) as I could squeeze the time for. Impressive group. Everyone please feel free to offer any (good or bad) opinions and, or, suggestions as I am a spunge. Here it is....(after arriving at the site click on "RUNAWAY").
http://www.theevolutionband.com/thee...musicpage.html

hornedrum 12-09-2003 04:27 PM

Hi Tito
 
Thanks!

The guitar was recorded live, not within reason, sorry!
Can't remember much about the guitar, but it went straight from the 'pod' into the 001, our wah was bust, so we used the automatic one in the pod.

I had cut the drums live to begin with, but my sounds were wrong, so I just programmed it in reason, and bounced it into PT.

My gear is as follows:

Emu E-Synth workstation
Novation Nova
My own drums/percussion (congas/djembe/shakers etc)
Creative Essentials rfl.s for reason (great sounds!)

So: reason for drums, esynth/nova for bass sounds, nova for wacky sounds, percussion live, all going through the Mackie into PT. (reason with rewire into PT)

I love your stuff too, remember it being the first thing I'd heard/seen from the DUC and being REALLY impressed(about 5/6 months ago?)

Anyway, cheers Tito!

Andrew




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