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GTBannah 10-15-2008 05:00 AM
Closed or Open Backed Headphones?
 
I can bet that this has been discussed before. Could someone please post a link. Failing that, we could just discuss it here (again). :cool:

In a StereoPhile review, it was hinted that closed equates to a fuller sound(?)

If that is so, could that be misleading?

Chase743 10-15-2008 08:47 AM
Re: Closed or Open Backed Headphones?
 
I don't have any technical insight to offer here.

I can tell you that I personally prefer open-back, and use them regularly as a reference when mixing.

However, whenever I am tracking, closed is obviously the way to go (to avoid sound leakage, etc.)

pcmusicpro 10-15-2008 08:19 PM
Re: Closed or Open Backed Headphones?
 
Yeah he's right closed for tracking/recording open for mixing reference only because you should mix with your monitors (a good pair).

I like Sony MDR 7506 wich is a standart and recently I'm using Sennheizer HD280 Pro both for recording.

GTBannah 10-16-2008 05:37 AM
Re: Closed or Open Backed Headphones?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmusicpro (Post 1294254)
....your monitors (a good pair).

....
GENELEC 1031As here, but I moved to a new location and there is no more "back wall", so they sound very different .... bottom gone!

The debate is between a sub,
and this http://www.spl-usa.com/index.php?id=357&L=1

combined with
http://www.ultrasone.com/index_en.ph...&artikel_id=18

DigiTechSupt 10-16-2008 08:28 AM
Re: Closed or Open Backed Headphones?
 
Quote:
In a StereoPhile review, it was hinted that closed equates to a fuller sound(?)

If that is so, could that be misleading?
The argument is that closed back sounds more full because not as much sound escapes.

Whether this is misleading or not is almost a non-question, as all headphones are misleading by their very nature. Effects are exaggerated, as is bass and you can get peaks and dips at certain frequencies from sound bouncing between your ear/head and the headphones/diaphragm.

It's probably best to try a bunch of headphones and see which ones sound most 'natural' to you. I really like the 7506's myself and recently got a pair of M-Audio Q40's that I think are in that same ballpark.

Many people I know love the Ultrasone's, but a vast majority of them are using them for casual listening (iPod, etc) rather than being studio guys. Most of the studio guys I know use AKG (closed and open back), Sennheiser or Sony.

In your situation, I would recommend pulling out some mixes and re-tuning your ears to your new monitor setup. You'll probably be surprised at how easy it is to adjust - I had much the same situation and bought a sub, thinking that would do it, only to sell it 6 months later because I ended up not using it much.

On the other hand - you may love a sub.

I certainly wouldn't rely on headphones for accuracy, especially in the bass end. There's not enough space between the headphones and your ear for bass frequencies to develop properly.

My 2˘

GTBannah 10-16-2008 11:07 AM
Re: Closed or Open Backed Headphones?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt (Post 1294381)
The argument is that closed back sounds more full because not as much sound escapes.

Whether this is misleading or not is almost a non-question, as all headphones are misleading by their very nature. Effects are exaggerated, as is bass and you can get peaks and dips at certain frequencies from sound bouncing between your ear/head and the headphones/diaphragm.

It's probably best to try a bunch of headphones and see which ones sound most 'natural' to you. I really like the 7506's myself and recently got a pair of M-Audio Q40's that I think are in that same ballpark.

Many people I know love the Ultrasone's, but a vast majority of them are using them for casual listening (iPod, etc) rather than being studio guys. Most of the studio guys I know use AKG (closed and open back), Sennheiser or Sony.

In your situation, I would recommend pulling out some mixes and re-tuning your ears to your new monitor setup. You'll probably be surprised at how easy it is to adjust - I had much the same situation and bought a sub, thinking that would do it, only to sell it 6 months later because I ended up not using it much.

On the other hand - you may love a sub.

I certainly wouldn't rely on headphones for accuracy, especially in the bass end. There's not enough space between the headphones and your ear for bass frequencies to develop properly.

My 2˘
More to chew on.

Thanx!


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