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Media Man 01-12-2011 01:41 PM

Buses in PT 9
 
I just started planning a new computer build for PT 9 HD. My G5 won't support 9, so I was planning a move to a Windows box where I can still use PCI slots for my HD3 PCI cards.

But I've just heard tales of doom from a PT guru friend of mine who absolutely HATES the new "busing"format, a change I was not aware of. He supports several film score composers that are cursing PT 9 up and down.

I use buses EXTENSIVELY in my style of working for submasters, stems, mix buses, etc., etc. On every version of PT I have ever used, you can assign the input and output of every channel to a bus of your choosing. Is that no longer the case?

I've been told that the channel output and channel input scheme has been totally changed to some sort of automated system where you cannot rename things. I've heard that the bus matrix on the I/O page is gone.

Before I spend a dime, what the heck is going on?

Mark

plastikman 01-12-2011 01:51 PM

Re: Buses in PT 9
 
I really don't think it's necessary to start the same thread twice. Especially because now you're going to get different answers in 2 different places, and that is extremely counter-productive. Download the PT9 manual and the What's New in PT9 guides, i'm sure it's covered there.

Meads 01-12-2011 01:55 PM

Re: Buses in PT 9
 
Actually the only thing that has changed is, that you can now map Buses directly to a phyiscal output (I don't know what for, though), and you don't have to click into the matrix anymore to define the buses. You simply create one, and choose if it's supposed to be mono/Stereo/etc. Then it just sits there - which is a good thing, actually.
You're still able to route ins and outs of tracks to buses, just like you always could. Nothing has changed here.

Media Man 01-12-2011 01:56 PM

Re: Buses in PT 9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plastikman (Post 1734911)
Download the PT9 manual and the What's New in PT9 guides, i'm sure it's covered there.

I'm interested in hands on experience of the user group with the design change. I'm sure the manual devotes a page to it.

Mark

digidesigner 01-12-2011 01:59 PM

Re: Buses in PT 9
 
I see no problem using busses exactly how they were... don't know how someone can have any problems :confused:

Dism 01-12-2011 02:09 PM

Re: Buses in PT 9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meads (Post 1734913)
Actually the only thing that has changed is, that you can now map Buses directly to a phyiscal output (I don't know what for, though)

For busing the same output (say 1-2) to several physical outputs in multiple devices. That way, you don't have to pair off multiple master faders for different listening devices, you can map everything to the same output, and hear from multiple sources.

Plus, you can now CREATE a track with buses already assigned from other tracks. So you could create a track for bouncing to and pre-assign the outputs from other tracks and they will be labeled the same name as that new track. Saves SO MUCH TIME when busing down.

Meads 01-12-2011 02:16 PM

Thanks for the enlightenment, dism. Makes perfect sense. Since I only use the outputs to feed my speakers, and sometimes don't look over my fence, I didn't see it. :)

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plastikman 01-12-2011 02:19 PM

Re: Buses in PT 9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Man (Post 1734914)
I'm interested in hands on experience of the user group with the design change. I'm sure the manual devotes a page to it.

Mark

The thing is, I'm interested in knowing these things too. Unfortunately the answers are spread all over the place because you felt the need to post this twice. Had you only made one thread, all the responses would be neatly compiled under one thread, instead of having to jump back and forth to make sure you don't miss any. But go ahead and keep clogging up the forums. Thanks.

Media Man 01-12-2011 02:24 PM

Re: Buses in PT 9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meads (Post 1734913)
You're still able to route ins and outs of tracks to buses, just like you always could. Nothing has changed here.

So you are saying that in addition to any new busing features, it is still possible to bus the old way as in PT8 and before.

For example, you can assign the output of track 1 to bus 5-6, and then create a new audio track or aux channel and select bus 5-6 as the input to that track for recording a stem or creating a submaster?

I know this sounds simple, but my source just told me this is no longer possible.

Mark

Media Man 01-12-2011 02:25 PM

Re: Buses in PT 9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plastikman (Post 1734930)
The thing is, I'm interested in knowing these things too. Unfortunately the answers are spread all over the place because you felt the need to post this twice. Had you only made one thread, all the responses would be neatly compiled under one thread, instead of having to jump back and forth to make sure you don't miss any. But go ahead and keep clogging up the forums. Thanks.

If you have anything to add to the subject matter, that would be great.

If I wanted to be told how to behave, I'd go talk to my wife.:-)

Mark


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