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johanonsydow 12-09-2010 04:04 AM

Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
Hello.

I own a brand new liquid saffire 56 that I want to use with pro tools 9.

I have it installed on a fresh version of windows 7 proffesional. I only have pro tools and saffire mixcontrol installed, noting else.

I have some very frustrating problems when I work.
Pro Tools keeps giving me these messages:

"ASIO device properties have been changed by the device control panel. Pro Tools must be restarted for these changes to take effect. Please restart Pro Tools.

Save - Quit"

The message can appear right in the startup or during a session of recording
(very embarrassing this weekend when I recorded a band and in the middle of a take this message appeard and stoped the recording, needing to restart.)

Then when I restart this message appears:

"Pro Tools hardware is either not installed or used by another program"

It usually takes 2-5 restarts of Pro Tools before I can continue to work.
What do I do about this?

I'm thinking it can be something with the buffersize. I chose 512 in PT9, but Saffire mixcontroll always sets it at 256.
I change it but it always change it back. Then I try to change PT9 to 256 but it says that I have to do that in the mixcontroll and that I cant do that because the hardware device is being used by another program = shutdown Pro Tools. Back to square one...

Any suggestions what to do?

Meads 12-09-2010 04:12 AM

Re: Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
I'm on a mac, so I don't know if my solution refers to PC as well.
I had a hard time getting the setup right, and i figured that the order of launching programs is vital.
Here's what I do:

1. Switch on my machine
2. When booting is completed switch on the Saffire
3. Open MixControl and set it up with values matching your PT-session
4. Leave MixControl running in bg and start PT

Since I do it like that, smootheness all over.

johanonsydow 12-09-2010 04:17 AM

Re: Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
Great. I'll try that.

I usually do that, exept from switching on the saffire after boot.
Usually do that while starting the computer.

Carpedrum 01-13-2011 03:23 PM

Re: Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
I'm having some nightmares with getting things to play nice with each other too!

Macbook pro running pt 9---to external drive..(800-800) to saffire 56.(400)

So far I have got the mixcontrol to recognize the saffire only once... and i keep changing the order of the daisy chain to see which one is best suited for my set-up-.- but i'm at a loss for a "proper order of things"... and the saffire 56 has not showed up in the mixcontrol since that one magical moment.

From what I read in the instruction manual ... it looks like I should try the express card so that each firewire is running on a separate bus... (am I understanding that right??)

Why has the saffire stopped being recognized... (I don't think I changed anything)...buuuut maybe I changed a setting within pt 9!?? Isa there a certain setting I should look at?? I'm beginning to loose patients and hair over this....

Meads 01-13-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpedrum (Post 1735521)
Why has the saffire stopped being recognized... (I don't think I changed anything)...buuuut maybe I changed a setting within pt 9!?? Isa there a certain setting I should look at?? I'm beginning to loose patients and hair over this....

First thing I need to ask, does the firewire-led light up, or is it dead? If it's on, look into OSX's audio midi setup. Does the Saffire appear in there?

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jarrydee 01-14-2011 02:35 PM

Re: Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
I just got my 56 and set it up with PT 9 very fast..the thing that sucks is that you MUST set the 56 to the correct sample rate before you open a session or you will get the error you been getting....the thing that sucks about that is I have some old sessions that I dont remember the SR I used and I cant open them!!! I just got this hooked up about an hour ago so if I learn more I will post!!!

L-Dogg 01-14-2011 02:57 PM

Re: Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
I just posted on that but I must say that seems a PITA. Surely there must be some way to set things so it "sees" the SR's of any session?

I just came across some Focusrite stuff on sale but I will now avoid them as it seems there are some problems with PT perhaps?

Dism 01-14-2011 03:01 PM

Re: Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Dogg (Post 1736143)
I just posted on that but I must say that seems a PITA. Surely there must be some way to set things so it "sees" the SR's of any session?

I just came across some Focusrite stuff on sale but I will now avoid them as it seems there are some problems with PT perhaps?

http://focusrite.com/protools9

I believe this will solve the samplerate issues. It's also why I haven't purchased one of these yet. I wanted to wait until more integrated control is achieved.

jarrydee 01-15-2011 12:55 PM

Re: Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dism (Post 1736144)
http://focusrite.com/protools9

I believe this will solve the samplerate issues. It's also why I haven't purchased one of these yet. I wanted to wait until more integrated control is achieved.

Is this available yet? because I still can not get a session opened or start a new one without all of the problems the OP has listed...this is crazy !

GAS 01-16-2011 09:33 AM

Re: Pro Tools 9 with focusrite liquid saffire 56 problems
 
I went through the exact same problem and it drove me crazy for a few days.

My issue turned out to be a conflict with my D-Link PCIe wireless network card. I have to disable it before launching PT and it's fine.

I really hope Focusrite or PT has an update at some point to resolve this.

As mentioned, do launch MixControl first.

I currently often have to start PT twice, but once it's running it's been stable. It just takes forever to actually get going. The first time takes about 5 minutes to load PT, then the restart goes much faster.

Good luck.


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