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XJENSEN 06-24-2020 05:07 AM

Re: Midi is played on time but midi notes are early on play back.
 
Using lower buffers is not always possible.
They should really fix this bug.
I have opened a support case with AVID.

XJENSEN 11-13-2020 12:42 PM

Re: Midi is played on time but midi notes are early on play back.
 
And another half year passed without a solution..

jimax 02-20-2021 09:41 AM

Re: Midi is played on time but midi notes are early on play back.
 
I’*m pretty sure that the midi is recorded earlier because we play earlier because of the audio latency during the recording. For example if i here the sound with a 256 sample latency, I will automaticaly play a little earlier, to compensate that latency.
It’s the same when I play on a acoustic piano, I play a few millisecond earlier to have the sound coming at the right time. We dont do that consciensously but we all do that, more or less.
I suppose that DAW like Cubase or Logic compensate this and put the Midi later, so we ear exactly the same result after the recording pass that during the recording pass.
If this is correct, I would like that Pro Tools act the same.

I will try to put a delay of the exact amount of buffer for example 256 Samples, and see if it solves the problem.

jimax 02-23-2021 09:02 AM

Re: Midi is played on time but midi notes are early on play back.
 
I confirme the «*early midi notes*» problem is because I play my keyboard a little bit earlier to ear the sound at the good place, when i’m tracking.
So the Midi notes are recorded early in the grid, as Protools receive it during the recording pass.

I note that the problem only concerns VST instruments and not external midi keyboard because these last has the same amount of audio latency during or after the record pass.

Adding MIDI OFFSET in preferences or MIDI DELAY in realtime propreties are not good solution , firstly because it make QUANTIZING unpraticable.

The solution i’ve found is moving manually the midi notes with the NUDGE Of the same value of my system buffer size. I first set the Nudge at the desired value. ( it can be done on the main Edit Window or Midi edit window or both )
After the rec pass, I select the midi clip and press + on my keyboard.

IT S THE ONLY WAY TO HEAR THE EXACT SAME THING DURING AND AFTER THE PASS.
I have to be very carefull if I do a punch In record pass, merging new notes with an already recorded and moved pass : obviously I have to move ONLY the notes of the very last pass, because I dont want to Move the same notes a second time.

QUESTION : how it works on other DAW like Cubase and Logic ?!!


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